I asked ChatGPT with help about bare metal 32-bit ARM (For the Pi Zero W) C/ASM, emulated in QEMU for testing, and after the third iteration of "use printf for output" -> "there's no printf with bare metal as target" -> "use solution X" -> "doesn't work" -> "ude printf for output" ... I had enough.

[–] purplemonkeymad@programming.dev 52 points 1 day ago

Sounds like it's perfectly replicated the help forums it was trained on.

[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I used ChatGPT to help me make a package with SUSE's Open Build Service. It was actually quite good. Was pulling my hair out for a while until I noticed that the project I wanted to build had changes URLs and I was using an outdated one.

In the end I just had to get one last detail right. And then my ChatGPT 4 allowance dried up and they dropped me back down to 3 and it couldn't do anything. So I had to use my own brain, ugh.

[–] noctivius@lemm.ee 6 points 1 day ago

chatgpt is worse among biggest chatbots with writing codes. From my experience Deepseek > Perplexity > Gemini > Claude.

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah you can tell it just ratholes on trying to force one concept to work rather than realizing it's not the correct concept to begin with

[–] formulaBonk@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago

That’s exactly what most junior devs do when stuck. They rehash the same solution over and over and it almost seems like that llms trained on code bases infer that behavior from commit histories etc.

It almost feels like on of those “we taught him these tasks incorrectly as a joke” scenarios

[–] LucidLyes@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

That's what tends to happen

[–] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

Did it at least try puts?

[–] qqq@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

QEMU makes it pretty painless to hook up gdb just FYI; you should look into that. I think you can also have it provide a memory mapped UART for I/O which you can use with newlib to get printf debugging

[–] 30p87@feddit.org 1 points 1 day ago

The latter is what I tried, and also kinda wanted ChatGPT to do, which it refused