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You're fighting shadows buddy. Not only that, you're projecting on the Canadian system an American political strategy, which is just silly, because the game is entirely different. My riding is a tossup between the Liberals and the NDP. The Conservatives are barely fourth. Flipping it to the NDP, does nothing for the Conservatives: if you haven't noticed, we've had an NDP-supported minority government for 3 and a half years. Were I in a Conservative tossup riding, I'd vote and advocate for ABC hands down. But don't you fucking dare barf crap like "if you’re campaigning against the Liberals you are campaigning for the Conservatives" at me. This is Canada, not some fucking swing state.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R59JmC0u63I
It's the same fucking playbook. Sky high promises with no plans. I'm not the other guy. Grievance. Populism.
Wake the fuck up. The christofascists are on the rise around the world. Canada isn't some special snow flake that's immune to their bullshit.
You keep talking to me as if I'm campaigning for PP. You keep fighting shadows and not understanding what I'm telling you. This is Canada, we do not have the US two party system. We don't have a binary choice. We have a multi-party democracy.
EDIT: toned down the all-caps. Sheesh man.
In the Ontario election the NDP and Liberals got 320,000 more votes than the Conservatives. Add the Greens and all the right to extreme right parties and the left still won. The PCs have an 83 seat majority in the provincial legislature. There is only one party that can beat the Conservatives at the national level. Spreading anti-Carney bullshit, the SAME MESSAGE THE CONSERVATIVES ARE SPREADING, IS campaigning for the Conservatives whether you're capable of seeing it or not.
Yes, because they won the conservative toss up seats and the Ontario Liberals and Ontario NDP could not bring themselves to cooperate. If you are arguing for strategic ABC voting, riding by riding, I'm right there with you bud. But that's not what you're arguing for. You're arguing for everyone to fall in line and vote Liberal, and not criticize Dear Leader, in some kind of pointless, nonsensical copy of the American "Blue No Matter Who" strategy. And if you think you're going to be able to bully non-Conservative voters to fall in line behind the Liberals no matter the local context, ben, bonne chance...
No, I'm arguing for not amplifying Conservative taking points. Campaign FOR your candidate, not against another non-Conservative candidate.
Conservative talking points? I have no idea what you're talking about.
https://lemmy.world/post/26620261
Loreto is saying that there is no material difference between the LPC and the CPC. The conservatives absolutely say they are different.
Ultimately though, here is what Loreto is actually saying:
Bad faith, bad also kinda garbage, interpretation: "she's saying don't vote and that it doesn't matter, she's dampening the vote".
Good faith, useful, interpretation: "vote how you will, but know that if you want real change about real problems it will take more than just voting".
"Harris supported genocide in Gaza" helped elect a fascist dictator wannabe who has whole throatedly supported the ethnic cleansing of Gaza so that he can build a billionaire's paradise resort.
But by all means, continue.
Aaaaand you circled back to a US political strategy that I've been arguing is not applicable to Canada. This is now a loop.
Same fucking playbook.
https://youtu.be/R59JmC0u63I