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[–] HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (3 children)

Ah yes, goal misalignment at its finest.

The students need high grades to get a job, so they focus on ensuring that happens (AI use being the easy path).

The teachers have progression targets to meet, so they focus on ensuring this happens (keep the AI vulnerable assessments).

If you want to change a module as a teacher, good luck getting that work loaded when you should be implementing AI in your curriculum ^_^

[–] Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world 9 points 23 hours ago

If success is determined by a metric, the metric will go up. Any relation to actual increase in value is coincidental. Lol. Long ago someone tried to incentivize programers by giving abonus per bug fixed. Didn't last long before they blew through the bonus budget and realized the programers were putting in bugs so they could fix them. (Urban legend really... probably)

[–] RaoulDook@lemmy.world 3 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

AI is bullshit and has no place in a school curriculum outside of computer science. Keep that shit away from children if you want them to have any critical thinking skills.

[–] InputZero@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

In practice you're right, and I'm not going to even try to argue the real life consequences AI has caused. However I disagree that AI doesn't have any place in the education system. Used on the appropriate problems, AI is a tool that makes a few things which were challenging to compute much easier. One example is large AI models folding proteins for medical research. A problem that took a computer a day or more to solve can be solved in hours on the same equipment using AI software. That's just one application that admittedly isn't useful to school aged children but it's still one useful example of AI. There are others. Students should be taught how to use AI properly, and part of that is teaching them what it's good at and what it'll never be able to do.

The part I get angry about is disgusting Tech Bro Billionaires trying to shove AI into every piece of software they can. Just like the block chain they're over promising and there's a bubble. Unlike block chain technology AI actually has a few useful applications and because of that it'll take a lot longer that BitCoin to finally level out.

[–] _g_be@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

The protein-folding ai is not the same as the generative ai.

It's really unfortunate that the conversation around AI lumps these different technologies together

Generative ai is a tool that must be used carefully else the kids will take the easy path.

[–] moseschrute@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

It’s kinda funny cause usually isn’t it the AI agent that has a misaligned goal? Like when I say don’t die, and it discovers that pausing Tetris technical means you never die. But now it’s students that have been given the wrong goal: pass the test by whatever means (e.g. use AI).

[–] HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

That's the real joke behind it all, the use of AI is such a problem because we're turning education into a stamp dispenser - everyone needs an A* to get anywhere.

AI has given every student a path to this - however if industry stopped demanding that universities train their damn staff for them, and instead insist we teach their future staff how to be trained (as well as giving them subject specific knowledge), then we'd see the misalignment vanish. Once the need for an A* to land a good job is gone, then so is the misalignment.