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[–] thesmokingman@programming.dev 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)
  1. Why?
  2. Are employers legally required to give employees time to grow their skills?
  3. If there is no regulated time for employees to grow their skills, should employees spend their free time growing their work skills?

You’re using lemmy.world. How much time did you spend deciding that was the place to be? Why did you pick Lemmy over the *bins? How much time have you put into your posting and commenting workflow? How much do you actually know about how ActivityPub works? What tools have you written?

[–] Lightor@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)
  1. To be good at your job and do well. Especially in tech where things can evolve quickly. Or just learn your job once and get left behind.
  2. I like growing my skill because I like that I do and being better at it I can demand more money. I do this outside of my employer because I want to grow.
  3. To be better at what you do, learn ways to avoid struggles you run into to make your life easier, explore tools that reduce mundane tasks to improve your quality of life, be able to demand more money by knowing skills or tools others don't. I mean a ton of reasons.

My picking .world is not a meaningful choice in my life, I put at much time into thinking about it as it deserved. My commenting and posting workflow aren't things that I need to get by, that can help me buy a house or food. Knowing emerging technologies that command a higher salary can. I literally learned the skills of my career on my own, online. I read books, I learned how to use tools, I grew. Now I make more money because of that. I wasn't sitting around waiting for for employer to pay for and make me get better at something. I don't get how this is such a hard thing to comprehend.

You think a guy who learned to be an electrician in the 90s and never leaned new tools of the trade is going to compete with someone who has? I mean maybe these whole power tools thing are a fad. Now take that to tech where things in the web and design space can move rapidly and you get left behind way faster, all because someone didn't make you get better? That's a wild take on life to me. I want to be good at what I do so I can demand a high salary and live a comfortable life. That's the end goal, having a comfortable life with a job that's as easy as you can get while feeling good about it and pays well. Learning and leveraging that knowledge is the way to get there.

[–] thesmokingman@programming.dev 2 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I agree with everything you’ve said. What I think you’re missing is that some people don’t want to be the best in class. Some people don’t take their work home with them and because employers are not required to give time to grow skills some people will just work the line. If your assumption about labor requires labor to spend their whole life working to be better at getting exploited, you have a lot to learn about the majority of labor.

[–] Lightor@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

I think we view skills differently. I don't see it as having to labor in my own time, I look at it as investing in my future so I can have a more comfortable life.

[–] bane_killgrind@slrpnk.net 0 points 2 days ago

Yeah I get that it's bad to just say "they are being lazy" but this kind of thinking is just lazy.

Like sure you can just work the line, but if you don't understand any of the theory behind your work product or how to accomplish your same work product despite different tooling, you are just making yourself less competitive and more exploitable. Most other professionals know how to cut their project down to the minimum viable product, there's nothing special about working with graphics.