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The DNC cited a procedural concern, but Hogg said it is “impossible to ignore the broader context” of his criticisms.

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[–] Dragonstaff@leminal.space 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I have been voting Blue No Matter Who for 20 years, and that has brought us to Trump.

I can't help but note that you didn't actually respond to any of my concerns. I understand what you're saying. Do you understand the counter argument?

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I have been voting Blue No Matter Who for 20 years, and that has brought us to Trump.

No, it didn't. People NOT voting Blue No Matter Who did. That's why he won.

My understanding is that the counter argument is that Democrats should be the kinds of people that people want to vote for, not just the lesser evil. That would be ideal, but it's not the reality we live in. Similarly, the reality is that people of all political leanings will usually not vote for the most practical outcome that benefits them, but with emotion. For conservatives, that means their team regardless of anything else - "Red No Matter Who." For people who are farther left than center-right, that means becoming disillusioned with how poorly Democrats represent them and not voting, even if they are still better than their opponents. Hence, the fascists win.

[–] Dragonstaff@leminal.space 1 points 1 month ago

No, it didn't. People NOT voting Blue No Matter Who did. That's why he won.

people of all political leanings will usually not vote for the most practical outcome that benefits them

You can't act like people don't vote for the lesser evil, or that it hasn't been responsible for every Dem victory since Clinton.

Democrats need to face the reality that "better than Republicans" is not a good motto and they can't win without presenting a better vision for how to improve people's lives. Yelling "Blue No Matter Who" at people online won't win elections.