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The DNC cited a procedural concern, but Hogg said it is “impossible to ignore the broader context” of his criticisms.

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[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Yes, I'd still vote for him because it's better than the Republicans. Harm reduction. Once you have these shitty-but-not-fascist people in power, you do exactly what you said and call them out on their bullshit, call your Congressperson to apply political pressure, primary them, protest, whatever you can. Because now that the fascists are in power, they can and will do whatever they want and you have even less agency to do anything about it than when they're not controlling the government.

When you pledge to vote Blue no matter who, that tells the Democrats to go as far right as they can, which means the Republicans can move even further right.

And when you don't vote against Republicans, they can completely take over the government and do whatever the fuck they want. What is that accomplishing?

[–] Dragonstaff@leminal.space 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I have been voting Blue No Matter Who for 20 years, and that has brought us to Trump.

I can't help but note that you didn't actually respond to any of my concerns. I understand what you're saying. Do you understand the counter argument?

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 2 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

I have been voting Blue No Matter Who for 20 years, and that has brought us to Trump.

No, it didn't. People NOT voting Blue No Matter Who did. That's why he won.

My understanding is that the counter argument is that Democrats should be the kinds of people that people want to vote for, not just the lesser evil. That would be ideal, but it's not the reality we live in. Similarly, the reality is that people of all political leanings will usually not vote for the most practical outcome that benefits them, but with emotion. For conservatives, that means their team regardless of anything else - "Red No Matter Who." For people who are farther left than center-right, that means becoming disillusioned with how poorly Democrats represent them and not voting, even if they are still better than their opponents. Hence, the fascists win.