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[–] sbv@sh.itjust.works 11 points 4 days ago (24 children)

The fediverse won’t succeed just because it’s better. It will succeed if and only if people choose it.

Part of that is making it monetizable. Influencers can build huge followings (and make some cash) because existing platforms recommend their content to other users.

Mastodon devs have chosen not to provide recommendations and quote posts. That's reasonable, but it reduces the utility of the platform, and it cedes space to Twitter & co.

To my knowledge, the only creator that's exclusive to Lemmy is the unix surrealism author. Until it's easy to monetize content, we're gonna have a hard time attracting creators, and a hard time attracting users.

[–] pmk@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 4 days ago (6 children)

I'd rather have one unix surrealism than a thousand influencers with lots of followers. These days, I want to be among people who interact as equals, who share ideas, who cooperate in a genuine way. If we try a shortcut to more users through money, what is the point?

[–] sbv@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 days ago (4 children)

I want to be among people who interact as equals, who share ideas, who cooperate in a genuine way.

I think online journalism might be a good example of influencers and users interacting as equals. Users provide extra information, ask questions, reify, and help highlight where the journalist can focus. The journalist does the leg work to produce novel news.

If we try a shortcut to more users through money, what is the point?

To build an interesting, self sustaining network, where people can express themselves fully, and understand each other.

The features I'm suggesting would benefit everyone: a decent view of trending topics/posts/tags; mod-controlled tags; stuff like that. Most users would find them helpful, but a few could use it to build a livelihood that others value.

[–] pmk@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If the money is freely given as a donation, then I'm with you. If lack of money is what is stopping someone from making things that others are willing to pay to see more of, then sure. But if the only way to do it is to have ads or selling our data etc, then I don't want that.

[–] sbv@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 days ago

But if the only way to do it is to have ads or selling our data etc, then I don't want that.

Nobody wants that. It's a bunch of lil features:

  • following users in Lemmy,

  • allow mods flair users in a community (so subscribers/patrons can show off),

  • Make it easier to see popular posts on Lemmy and Mastodon,

Stuff like that.

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