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Honestly, phone users ruined a generation of computing.
None of this shit was an issue when there was a barrier to entry to using the internet.
Blame tech companies, not users
I'll blame both.
The users are willfully ignorant.
To blame someone is to consider them responsible.
Do you consider the average user responsible? Is it productive to try to hold them responsible for any of this?
The end-user has always been the bane of all tech development. It doesn't change the fact that the increasing tech illiteracy of end-users in the modern day is by design.
Nobody can fix the user, but we can fix the companies that build containerized little retail environments that encourage mindless engagement and discourage curiousity and experimentation.
Man, the mental gymnastics you people go through just to argue with others on the internet is insane.
Nah, I just think that we spend too much time blaming people instead of systems. You can't change people. You can change systems which will then change people.
Cultural problems require cultural solutions.
What cultural solutions do you suggest?
Holding people accountable for their contributions to the problem.
Encouraging them to make better decisions to mitigate, and eventually reverse the damage that has been done.
That's not a solution, that's a vague idea.
How do you hold people accountable? How do you encourage them?
I'm going to ignore you now because you're just going to keep pretending not to understand what's being said because you don't like what's being said.
I see it all the time whenever someone's consumerism is threatened. Peace.
Lol how, exactly? Do you think I am the tech illiterate end user we are talking about?
Or maybe I am someone who constantly has to deal with end-users, and I'm forced to acknowledge that educating them is like trying to hold back the tide?
Systemic problems require systematic solutions. Anything less is just shouting into the wind.
And not wanting to learn to do basic things on a computer made companies put everything on rails and then once everything was on rails, they could just take control away from you. I don't know how many times working in an office people would be completely ignorant of how to use their computer and be completely fine with it. Like this is your career and your livelihood and the tool that you use daily to get the job done. Learn how to use it and not just the steps to "point and click at certain things" and when it doesn't do exactly what you want you give up.