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it's like you believe you can tariff them expecting they won't do the same. Why do you believe the rest of the world is not going to retaliate and why do you believe America can prosper without the rest of the world?

What's the point of having a military alliance with countries you puts tariffs on? That's unfriendly to say the least.

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[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 days ago (3 children)

should be easy for you to give an actual example then.

An example of her... not doing that? I already did, when she was asked in an interview what she would do differently.

No, it was easy because people are dumbasses

Again, what's you're plan to account for people being dumbasses? If people are dumbasses, and you want politicians to keep running campaigns as if they weren't, then the inevitable result of what you want is that you lose.

basic facts like how the economy is performing and covid caused global inflation is “complex economic explanations” now?

Yes. How "the economy" is performing doesn't necessarily reflect on the average person's lived experiences as they watch prices go up and don't own enough stocks to really benefit from that. I don't recall Kamala ever actually bringing up covid as the reason for global inflation, which was probably smart doing so probably would've just increased covid skepticism, it would've played right into their hands. It's no surprise that the right was able to cut through that rhetoric by talking about the price of eggs and such.

I really feel like you're underestimating the challenge of communicating ideas to a broad population. Any message you want to communicate, you should imagine someone acting in complete bad faith trying to present you in the worst possible light and shouting over everything you say, because that's what cable news is, and it's also what political content on platforms like Twitch and YouTube are like, except then they don't even have to bring you on at all, they can go through clips and shit cherry-picking and taking things out of context. I can shout "YOU DON'T HAVE ANY MONEY BECAUSE THE BILLIONAIRES TOOK IT" and that's a lot more likely to get through than like, "You don't have any money, but you could have even less money, and actually if you compare our inflation levels to the global median you'll see that it was actually unavoidable," which can easily be distorted and shouted down.

[–] zenitsu@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

An example of her... not doing that? I already did, when she was asked in an interview what she would do differently

An example of how she could've distinguished herself successfully...

Again, what's you're plan to account for people being dumbasses? If people are dumbasses, and you want politicians to keep running campaigns as if they weren't, then the inevitable result of what you want is that you lose.

I'm not trying to present a plan. I'm trying to explain the sources of disinformation and how people were manipulated by them. The media environment needs to be fixed, but people have already been successfully manipulated into distrusting traditional media and trusting Russian bot farm accounts on Twitter instead. How to fix this environment now? God knows

I really feel like you're underestimating the challenge of communicating ideas to a broad population.

I feel like I'm highlighting that, if anything.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

An example of how she could’ve distinguished herself successfully…

I already did. She could've said that the administration wanted to do more about inflation but was held back by Republicans in Congress. She could've also pointed a finger at the rich and say that she would do more to confront them and stop price gouging.

I’m not trying to present a plan... God knows

Ok, well some of us actually do have ideas on how to win and haven't resigned ourselves to this defeatist martyrdom nonsense. So, like, maybe we should toss out your ideas at least for a while and give mine a try, since they involve a practical, coherent strategy adapted to the present situation which you have no answer for.

Like why on earth would I ever come around to your position if you can't even come up with a theoretical solution to the most important political questions of our time? If even you see your political project as a sinking ship, I'm sure as hell not coming aboard.

[–] zenitsu@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

administration wanted to do more about inflation but was held back by Republicans in Congress.

Ah yes, because voters clearly cared when it was pointed out that republicans blocked the border bill just to avoid giving Biden that win, on the orders of Trump.

She could've also pointed a finger at the rich

Yes, voters were also clearly concerned about "eating the rich" when they voted for billionaires who are backed by the richest man on earth. Truly a guaranteed winning strategy. Genius, that's really a grounded take from someone who actually see's how "things actually are" rather than "ought to be".

Ok, well some of us actually do have ideas on how to win

Your "ideas" are shit, nobody cares. You're clearly incapable of identifying what's wrong in the first place so what chance do you have of coming up with any workable solutions that aren't just schizo tankie delusions lmao.

So, like, maybe we should toss out your ideas at least for a while and give mine a try

Who's "we"? Quit larping like a schizo, you're not the opposition rebellion leader lmao. Nobody's implemeting any of your tankie dogshit.