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[–] Critical_Thinker@lemm.ee 24 points 1 day ago (3 children)

What's the consequences of not lying on your resume? you can't get a good job.

What's the consequences of being caught lying on your resume? you lose your good job.

What's the consequences of not getting caught? You get paid to do the job that didn't require the degree to begin iwth.

The consequences are the same whether or not you do it. The benefits greatly outweigh the risks.

[–] Patch@feddit.uk 4 points 14 hours ago

What's the consequences of being caught lying on your resume? you lose your good job.

I used to work as a trade union officer representing people at disciplinaries. I've represented several people over the years who were sacked for lying on their CVs.

Not only did they lose their job, but they'll get a "sacked for gross misconduct" reference from that employer making it much more difficult to get another job. Those in regulated roles also ended up with gross misconduct records with the regulator, making it essentially impossible to work in that field again.

So no, it's not a risk free game.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

What’s the consequences of not lying on your resume?

You pass your background check.

Harvard and other major schools make it fairly easy to vet graduates with a call to the registrar's office. Most schools have electronic portals to handle the requests in bulk.

This is an extremely low bar for an HR department to pass.

[–] Critical_Thinker@lemm.ee 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Sure those are all well and good ideas. My wife works in HR and she's yet to work at a company that calls the registrars office. They do criminal background checks all over, but rarely do they go beyond that. We're in mass, so we're entitled to a copy of our background check performed by the business, if you're in a similar situation i'd recommend checking it out.

That being said, if you're applying for a job you're never gonna get an interview for (Director or Manager roles without an MBA or BS) then you have quite literally nothing but your time to lose.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

My wife works in HR and she’s yet to work at a company that calls the registrars office.

It's SOP over here. I even got bothered about it when I was in the final stage of hiring, because I graduated in December and put graduated in 2005 on my application despite officially getting the diploma in 2006.

That being said, if you’re applying for a job you’re never gonna get an interview for (Director or Manager roles without an MBA or BS) then you have quite literally nothing but your time to lose.

Reputation matters and you won't get love in your industry by lying like this.

If you do get fired, and your employer flags you as "not eligible for rehire" that's a big chunk of your career you can't reference anymore because its now a black mark.

This is a big risk for anyone who isn't simply scamming as a career.

[–] Patch@feddit.uk 1 points 6 hours ago

I don't know how they do it in the US, but in the UK most big companies outsource application checks to several big clearing houses. They handle the logistics of checking qualifications and obtaining references from previous employers, plus the optional enhanced checking that some companies need (such as DBS/criminal record checks).

In the UK there is a single official centralised system for checking degree qualifications which covers most major universities. It's also only a 5 minute job to email a university registrar directly. I think most big companies would consider this a bare minimum task when recruiting for any role where a qualification is in any way important.

[–] Mclemons@programming.dev 1 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Most not have worked with hr much. Low bars are still way to high and AI is reading resumes that aren't stuffed with keywords

[–] frezik@midwest.social 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

And it shouldn't be too difficult to avoid getting caught. Most won't bother checking, but if they do, you can always pick some accredited university that went defunct some years ago. It might be impossible to check if even if they wanted to. Then avoid giving details about anything from your college days, and hope a coworker doesn't show up who actually went there.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

you can always pick some accredited university that went defunct some years ago

Harvard is not one such school.