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[–] vegetvs@kbin.earth 85 points 18 hours ago (7 children)

Teenagers should not be on social media. I rest my case.

[–] andallthat@lemmy.world 43 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Not just teenagers. Facebook and quite a few others should outright be banned. Not only they are scientifically proven to be a mental health catastrophe and a political threat to democracy, it's also pretty clear now that both these things are part of their design, not bugs or unintended emerging properties.

[–] ToastedRavioli@midwest.social 9 points 12 hours ago

Facebook actively contributed to the genocide in Myanmar, and did basically nothing about it because they didnt want to hire more moderators that spoke the language, so that they could adequately remove pro-genocidal content

[–] Someone8765210932@lemmy.world 17 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Ok, but the genie is already out of the bottle. Arguing like this is kinda pointless.

I don't think it will be possible to get them off social media (or the internet in general), so you need to find ways to make it work.

E.g. minors can not be advertised to, no algorithmic content, no doom-scrolling, and heightened data protection. I think teenager should get access to as much as possible to reduce the "risk" of them trying to go around it. "Their" version of social media might even be the superior one in the end.

If the world wasn't on fire at the moment, people could calmly discuss possible solutions and propose laws in every country to actually protect their children from e.g. the stuff mentioned in the linked article. Sadly, this isn't going to happen ...

[–] andallthat@lemmy.world 7 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

The thing is that social media have an oversized influence that makes a calm discussion of possible solutions very hard to have. When the US recognized the implications of letting a foreign power exert so much control over their people, they tried banning TikTok, or breaking it up so their US operation would be under US control.

Facebook should also be split and its EU operation purchased by a European company, that could then spend more time implementing the other changes you mention (doom-scrolling, data protection) and less time lobbying to get all these pesky EU regulations removed.

And yes, it does feel heartbreaking to count the US as a threat to national security, but China has never threatened to annex Greenland with military force, so what would have been paranoia and extreme anti-americanism last year is now the sensible, level-headed thing to do.

[–] theblips@lemm.ee 0 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

How isn't it possible? Just don't give them phones, it's not that complicated

[–] cooperativesrock@lemm.ee 5 points 11 hours ago

Ok, when was the last time you saw a working payphone? 2010? It isn't safe for teens to not have a phone because payphones don't exist any more.

[–] slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org 8 points 16 hours ago
[–] lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com 7 points 10 hours ago

Humans should not be on social media.

Fixed.

[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 7 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

That's sounds like blaming teens for the actions of the adults behind Facebook.

[–] vegetvs@kbin.earth 21 points 13 hours ago

That's a fallacy. Teenagers are the victims here. So I'm obviously blaming greedy corporations, lack of good parenting and proper regulation from authorities.

[–] misteloct@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

They shouldn't, but also PSA to any parents but modern parenting advice typically is to let your kids use social media if they choose, and guide them through the social and emotional difficulties with good communication. Don't blanket ban it because they'll just use it anyways without guidance, and be unprepared the moment they turn 18.

It's a case of: 99.9% of kids are smoking cigarettes so yours will too. Better to show them how to use a weekly cigar without inhaling, than just ban it which won't work.

[–] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

I hearby petition an amendment for an expansion of the child protective laws to widen the definition of abuse, neglect, and reckless abandonment of children to include:

"letting children browse without ad blockers"