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Collapse, in this context, refers to the significant loss of an established level or complexity towards a much simpler state. It can occur differently within many areas, orderly or chaotically, and be willing or unwilling. It does not necessarily imply human extinction or a singular, global event. Although, the longer the duration, the more it resembles a ‘decline’ instead of collapse.
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The US releases more radiation entirely uncontrolled over every five year period than the Chernobyl event.
Chernobyl is over exaggerated. Coal power has done more damage, and continues to do more damage than the totality of all nuclear incidents, and it does so every 7 years.
Yes, but you are missing the point.
USSR was forced to take the Chernobyl seriously, built the sarcophagus, and lost a lot of money and reputation.
The US lost the goodwill by... having voted in the biggest disaster so far. Not because of any crysis manifested as of yet, but they will come very soon.
The death and destruction you speak of doesn't move almost anybody.
Ask the 20-50x more cancer patients downwind (up to 50 miles) from any coal mine or plant what they think of a few thousand dead.
More people have died from coal related radiation related cancers than lived in the entirety of pripyat.
Nuclear, by the numbers is the safest power source next to solar. The rmb reactors of Chernobyl, per mWh, are safer than any implementation of coal that has ever existed or will ever exist.
I'm not talking about disasters, that's just coal operation. Nominal operation.
No, your argument was Chernobyl was uniquely awful. It wasn't. By any measure you want coal plants outdo Chernobyl on a regular basis during their regular operation.
What do I want from you? To stop saying stupid shit and then defend said stupid shit into the grave because you can't ever be wrong.
Singular event. No singular event has been as bad. Concentrated, short timeline. Days. Hundreds if not thousands dead within months, tens of thousands displaced and/or riddled with cancer. All from ONE single reactor. Jfc stop selectively reading my comments.
You’re saying it’s exaggerated? Give me a fucking break. Go read the numbers.