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[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So you think the people using a common good and doing the most damage to it should not pay for that use? Why should the poor people without cars, the people who aren’t able to bike or drive, pay for your visit?

Because that's what our taxes are for. That's what we're paying for, the commons. Drivers licenses, car registrations, etc., yeah sure, I can see why we pay for that.

[–] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I'd also prefer this to be rolled into an income tax, but Washington doesn't have one. The state only has a regressive sales taxes, one that has an outsized impact on our poorest citizens.

By making this a "fee for use," it at least minimizes the damage to the poor who can't access the parks at all.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

IMO, they should have made out of state people pay more and Washington State residents pay nothing, like they do in Hawaii.

[–] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 1 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

Tourists have to buy day passes or a discovery pass in Washington. Day passes are $11.50/day. They are already in general being charged way more than people that go to the parks year round with the $35 annual pass. This is comparable, but actually higher, than what hawaii charges tourists.

Hawaii's parks are visited way more by tourists than Washingtons parks. You would have to make the tourist pass something ridiculous to cover the shortfall, which would price out tourists, meaning no income for the park, meaning parks destroyed by Washingtonians.

$35/yr is a reasonable resident cost. $11/day is a reasonable tourist cost. Seems like Washington has made reasonable choices for this that reflect the states needs.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 1 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

I guess we're going to disagree. We were poor when this law was implemented. It was pretty hard on us.

Edit, btw, this is what we pay too, lol.

Tourists have to buy day passes or a discovery pass in Washington. Day passes are $11.50/day.