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[–] solrize@lemmy.world 140 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Article is from 2018. Someone must have pasted the url from hacker news where the same story was dug up recently.

[–] nalinna@lemmy.world 28 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

Is that to say that it's no longer valid? Or just that it's old news? The list of apps associated with the software is still pretty extensive; Google Assistant even showed up.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 25 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (3 children)

Well these days Android asks for more permissions so I guess it would prevent it in many cases by preventing access to the microphone for apps where you don't want to allow it...

[–] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 20 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Android also shows an indicator when any app is accessing the microphone or camera now.

[–] 0x0@infosec.pub 7 points 11 hours ago

https://nvd.nist.gov/vuln/detail/CVE-2023-21083

There are probably other exploits around that as well

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, most people just click beyond that in a millisecond because it's just an an annoyance between them and the needed dopamine.

I think app stores can do a whole lot more, especially with he insane amounts of money they're earning from it (hello and fuck you, apple). They can make microphone access a special privilege that requires the developer to make a special request that gets verified on the app store before the app can be released, for example

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

I think a middle ground may be having that requirement for background mic usage, or usage without a specific user prompt that turns on a mic.

Lots of apps have legitimate use for the mic. Apps having legitimate use for the mic while you're not actively using the app on screen are more limited and need stricter permissions.

I'd also like to have a hardware mic mute switch that physically disconnects the mic, so I can just keep it off unless I want it like I do with the mic and Webcam on my computer.

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 hours ago

it has always asked for mic permission so no change on that front

[–] thangcuoi@lemm.ee 23 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

7 years is a long time in tech.

Google Assistant is supposed to listen for the "Hey Google" trigger word. How else do you expect to use your device hand-free.

[–] bonsai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 14 hours ago

No, 2018 wasn't 7 years ago... No... Wait please..! :'(

[–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 hours ago

It also does it completely locally, using an on-device chip. If your phone has the Google assistant on it, disable all Internet and try the wake phrase, it'll work. Nothing else does, because it has to phone home for that, but the wake phrase handling IS on-device. Can't even turn the flashlight on otherwise tho lol, even if you use what we used to call the power button (new name for it? Lock button?) and type what you want it bitches about internet

[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 19 points 18 hours ago

Old news. It was old news in 2018