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Not wearing a seatbelt should be completely legal (once you're over 18). It's stupid, but it should absolutely be legal.
No. It also puts the other party's life (in a crash) in danger.
Nope, it doesn't.
The chances of that happening are so astronomically low as to be completely irrelevant, and it doesn't hold a candle to the violation of personal liberty.
?????? Astronomically low? Even a crash at 10 to 20 Km/h can turn you into a meat projectile, dumbass
Then it should be suuuper easy to find evidence of a fatality due to a human projectile from a car accident if this is such a huge concern.
I'll wait. Don't worry, I'm patient.
Edit: I wonder how many of you are on the case now. Good luck! I'd hate for all of your pearl clutching to be for naught!
Edit 2: Almost an hour in! Man, it's really starting to look like this is actually just a non-issue, and an excuse to (literally) police other people's behavior and choices that you don't like!
Edit 3: Six hours later, and still looking like a non-issue!
Edit 4: it's been fifteen hours - I think I'm going to call it here. The "human missile" myth clearly has no basis in fact, and is no reason to mandate seatbelt use.
Not a person but a laptop
I bet you weigh more than a laptop. Even if I wasn't killed by you, if I was hurt more because of you I would be pissed.
Sounds like we should mandate strapping down all objects in the car then, right? Since you're arguing we mandate that for people?
By law, cars should come with multiple tie-downs all over the interior of the vehicle, and it should be illegal to have an object in the car over five pounds not secured by them. Right? Because you're so concerned about this one case you were able to find that wasn't even a person?
I must say, this is a very stupid hill to die on.
That's fair, but it just frustrates me the way that people bend over backwards to justify what is clearly an excuse for bastard cops to a) fill their coffers and b) more importantly, find an easy excuse to pull you over and violate your rights even further.
Everyone is acting like this is about safety, and about "the trauma of poor road cleaners", but the cops and legislators who put this in place don't give a fuck about your safety, and they certainly don't give a fuck about the trauma of blue collar road workers - they just want to give themselves more opportunities to arrest brown people, and it's ridiculous that the people in here spouting ACAB all over Lemmy don't recognize that.
Jesus, you're a fucking moron.
How do you know his name is Jesús?
Great argument, I'm convinced!
I'm not going to gore websites for your pleasure, but liveleaks used to be a gold mine for you apparently
This is a proven fact. If you want to ve a complete moron, then you're no better than a flat earther or an antivaxxer, in which case fuck you and I'm not going to waste my time on you
So... still no evidence whatsoever for that "proven fact", then, eh?
The difference is that flat earthers are presented with evidence that they're ignoring, but nobody has presented any evidence in this thread for me to ignore, even though this is supposedly such a huge problem.
Google it meathead Being ejected from a car in a crash significantly increases the risk of fatal injuries, with statistics indicating that around 81% of people ejected from vehicles in accidents are killed, according to Carpey Law. The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) reports that occupants ejected from a vehicle are three times more likely to suffer fatal injuries compared to those who remain restrained, according to Newsome Melton. Seat belts are the most effective safety equipment in preventing vehicle ejections.
You've completely misunderstood the argument.
People should be allowed to do things that are dangerous.
The people in this thread are arguing that becoming a human projectile is dangerous to other people, and I'm asking them to provide evidence of this.