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[–] MoonlightFox@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (16 children)

It can generate combinations of things that it is not trained on, so not necessarily a victim. But of course there might be something in there, I won't deny that.

However the act of generating something does not create a new victim unless there is someones likeness and it is shared? Or is there something ethical here, that I am missing?

(Yes, all current AI is basically collective piracy of everyones IP, but besides that)

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (15 children)

Watching videos of rape doesn't create a new victim. But we consider it additional abuse of an existing victim.

So take that video and modify it a bit. Color correct or something. That's still abuse, right?

So the question is, at what point in modifying the video does it become not abuse? When you can't recognize the person? But I think simply blurring the face wouldn't suffice. So when?

That's the gray area. AI is trained on images of abuse (we know it's in there somewhere). So at what point can we say the modified images are okay because the abused person has been removed enough from the data?

I can't make that call. And because I can't make that call, I can't support the concept.

[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago (6 children)

With this logic, any output of any pic gen AI is abuse.. I mean, we can 100% be sure that there are CP in training data (it would be a very bug surprise if not) and all output is result of all training data as far as I understand the statistical behaviour of photo gen AI.

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today -1 points 1 week ago

With this logic, any output of any pic gen AI is abuse

Yes?

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