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[–] PhobosAnomaly@feddit.uk 39 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I think Section 31 as a concept is really quite lame, like a covert division of Internal Affairs of the de facto Galaxy Police organisation?

It was just Sloan who was so well written and was so well performed that made it a fucking brilliant peek at Section 31.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 30 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I think Section 31 as a concept is really quite lame, like a covert division of Internal Affairs of the de facto Galaxy Police organisation?

Not internal affairs, CIA. The Federation at large gets to keep their hands clean and stand tall morally. Section 31 comes in and fucks stuff up doing all the immoral shit needed to preserve and expand the Federation.

Federation: "Bio weapons are a war crime and morally indefensible"

Section 31: "Yeah thats great to take a moral position, but the Federation was facing extinction, so we clandestinely created a bio weapon that works only on the shape-shifting 'Founders' and used our own allied shapeshifter to infect them without his knowledge killing his own people to push the 'Founders' into submission and stop the overpowering invasion of the Alpha quadrant."

Sisko working with Garak murdering Romulan Senator Vreenak was absolutely Section 31 material.

[–] VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Sisko working with Garak murdering Romulan Senator Vreenak was absolutely Section 31 material.

It's also arguably something that Article 14, Section 31 is actually meant for. The Dominion was in the process of conquering the entire quadrant and dismantling the Federation government, among others, and they had the means and manpower to do so. That's an extreme and existential threat. The thing Sloan tricked Bashir into doing with the Romulans, on the other hand, is just a regular Tuesday with the RSE as your neighbors and therefor not an extreme threat.

[–] ummthatguy@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They even had their hands on a fairly well respected wartime admiral (Ross).

[–] SaltSong@startrek.website 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm moderately curious what they had on him. But I don't want to know.

[–] melmi@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 2 days ago

Sloan being IA was just a cover, S31 doesn't actually have anything to do with IA. It's its own thing.