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[–] jonne@infosec.pub -5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I didn't ever say the Russians were the good guys. I'm saying the West is happy to keep Ukrainians fighting and dying for geopolitical reasons. Zelensky was elected on a platform of making a deal and ending the war, and he wasn't allowed to do that by the West.

Eventually there will be a peace, and even though it would be fair that Ukraine gets all its territory back, realistically that's not going to happen (and if it did, there's the question of what happens to all the Russian speakers in those areas). The deal he could've gotten right after the failed Russian invasion would've been better than whatever he can get now, especially with Trump now basically being in Putin's side.

It's just a case of the US continuing to push too far thinking you can just beat Russia with better technology, even though history has shown that Russian leaders are perfectly happy to just throw men into the battle until the enemy runs out of ammo.

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Do you believe Ukrainians have no agency? Nobody but Russia is forcing them to fight.

[–] jonne@infosec.pub -1 points 2 weeks ago

They have, but they were promised the backing of the US, and now they're not going to have it any more.