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You can also go on the play store and find a huge list of proprietary apps that haven't been updated.
You need some actual stats to back up this point. Plenty of proprietary software is unsuccessful because it fails to profit, so its shut down. At least FOSS software will continue as long as someone finds it useful enough to keep it going. Plus the obvious, that if you like a piece of software you can maintain it yourself.
Also saying that FOSS software is "notoriously low quality" is silly. There's tons of great and important FOSS software and plenty of shit FOSS software, just like proprietary software. Your comments just ignore how much proprietary shovelware exists.
Once again, false equivalency.
It's not silly, it's plain to see for anyone that has tried to use it. But it is hilarious to see you try to deny it.
Do you think people just enjoy throwing away money to give themselves a worse experience?
How is that false equivalency? Comparing fdroid to the play store is about as close as you can get.
Like I said, there is bad FOSS software, but that doesnt make it generally false. People pay for software that doesnt have a good free alternative, they pay for support, and often they will pay to use software that has good marketing because they are simply unaware of the alternatives.
I'm not saying all FOSS software is great, but lots of software does have great FOSS options, for example, Firefox, Blender, and Bevy. Obviously there are also examples of proprietary software without a great alternative, like Photoshop. I like FOSS, but I don't avoid proprietary solutions that do a better job. Believe it or not, I still end up using mostly FOSS software.
You're not backing your points up with any actual reasoning or examples while also being condescending about it.
I'm so sick of that person. All over the tech community with horrible and downright stupid takes. Just a while ago they were complaining about bloatware installed on android phones, but then fails to see your point about proprietary software also being useless or abandoned.
They'll block you if you point that out and call it "harassment".
Yep, didnt make a single sensible point. Just anecdotes and irrelevant examples. I'm bad at ignoring an argument so I went and blocked lol
The false equivalency is not that the two aren't comparable products, the false equivalency is that they have those problems at similar rates, because they don't.
My reasoning is experience. FOSS has this reputation among most people. Only people who are willfully ignorant can't see it. I could give you examples all day but it'd just be cherry-picking and I'm sure you would remain unswayed. Feel free to ignore me, I'm just saying what it is.
I am genuinely curious why you think people pay money for worse software though...
That was my entire point. The person I was originally replying to seemed to suggest exactly that.
Source? Every commenter here disagrees with you, so it seems like your wild claim is not supported by any evidence.
Oh, well if all 2 of you disagree with me, that must mean that I'm wrong and not that you want to lie about it so that more people will use FOSS.
It's actually 5 people vs. you right now, and anyone can count to confirm it. Calling out the fact that you have produced zero evidence for your wild claims is not "wanting to lie", it's just stating what any observer can see.
You said that your "reasoning is experience", so let this conversation be an experience that challenges your perception of what others think about FOSS.
It isn't.
You really gotta quit with the sealioning. I've already explained this several times. I'm not doing it again.
I'll do that but the cards are still stacked against you.
The 5 people who disagree with you:
And, no, you making baseless assertions while attacking everyone who disagrees with you does not count as evidence.
I haven't "attacked" anyone. Just stated that they're wilfully ignorant, which is true. However if when you were looking around for all of those comments you were paying attention, you would've seen people throwing out extremely unnecessary and vulgar personal attacks at me.
You keep asking me for evidence, and I keep telling you I don't have any. I'm not writing a fucking college dissertation, it's an internet comment. Since this conversation is going nowhere, and since you continue to sealion me with this nonsense after I've asked you to stop several times, you're going to be blocked as well. Have a nice evening.
You don't know what words mean! You just throw out "sealion", "false equivalency", "bad faith"! Just buzz words!
Get the fuck out of here already!!
Just get off the tech communities. You really don't know anything, you spam stupid takes all over the place. 2k comments in 3 months. Go do anything else, please.
Earlier you were complaining about bloatware on android phones, with a long list of examples from Samsung. Then you go on and attack the quality of FOSS, which you definitely don't use. But somehow paying for proprietary is better because it's more polished and sustainable? While bloatware is a term? This is why I tagged you as "bad faith actor/unintelligent".
Please delete your account. You make this place worse.
All those personal insults REALLY motivated me to take your advice but I think I'll just block you instead and report you for harrassment.
Good Lord you are such a child.
That's not what a false equivalency is, but ok.
Most people don't have any clue what FOSS is. They just want software, and if its free and works, they'll like it.
I provided two reasons in my post. Superior marketing and professional support.
Ok, but thats not what you went on to say.
You are not arguing in good faith, I don't care to continue going in circles.
Lol that's not a false equivalency. You don't get to just decide words mean things they don't because it sounds nice in your head.