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Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered 160,000 more Russians aged 18–30 be drafted from April 1 to July 15, amid U.S.-brokered ceasefire talks.

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy warned the Kremlin is preparing a major offensive in Sumy, Kharkiv, and Zaporizhzhia, accusing Russia of stalling negotiations to gain territorial leverage.

Over 100,000 Russian soldiers are confirmed dead. Ukraine reported 46,000 dead and 380,000 wounded.

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[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 87 points 2 days ago (8 children)

This is America's future. Conscription is in Project 2025 and make no mistakes about it. The Christian Nationalist Death Cult would love to send you to the front.

[–] ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.zip 26 points 2 days ago

Nah I'm too trans to be let in even as a conscript. They would rather just kill me domestically 🎉

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 16 points 2 days ago

The Christian Nationalist Death Cult would love to send you to the front.

To fight for Russia against Ukraine or Israel against Iran. Maybe if they're in a good mood, you'll be able to choose which genocide you participate in.

[–] index@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Isn't conscription already a thing in USA? Many countries silently paused conscription but it's just there

[–] tikifire@lemm.ee 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] invertedspear@lemm.ee 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That’s the other guys point. We haven’t used it since the 70s, but the system is still in place to be used. Easy to fire it up again.

[–] tikifire@lemm.ee 9 points 2 days ago

My point was at least half or more of the US population has little-to-no-memory of what that was like.

My dad was drafted during the Vietnam era but I'm in my 50's and have no actual memory of that time.

I know it happened but I was really young when they stopped the draft and we've had several generations born since then who also have no memory of it.

It would be politically dangerous for a government to restart a draft absent an actual world war-type situation or a dictatorship.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago

This is America's future. Conscription is in Project 2025

Americans could still prevent that future if a few million of them got off their asses and took action against the fascist takeover of their country.

But that would get in the way of watching American idol, and HoneyBooBoo reruns, wouldn't it...

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The religious nutters will form a White Christian unit copying the Iranian Revolutionary Guard, march with the goose step and all of the sick fucks will have Jerusalem Cross tattoos.

Conscription will start after the US economy completely swirls down the shitter leaving all sorts of skid marks.

[–] CaptainPedantic@lemmy.world -2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

According to this article, project 2025 doesn't do that. It proposes requiring students to take the military ASVAB test. Which honestly isn't the worst idea. In my high school they recommended people who didn't know what they wanted to do for a career to take it even if they weren't going into the military.

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 42 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They are planning to make all public school kids take the test but not the private school kids. It will be for conscription. They will know where to throw your ass to make the meat grinder run better. That's the only reason for this bullshit

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Believable, and on point for these fascists, but you got a source? OP does.

[–] bassomitron@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Private schools don't have to follow the same requirements as public schools already. The person above you is just inferring that since they're already separate in the current system, the new ASVAB requirement would also be separate. But until it becomes an actual law, it isn't super useful arguing hypotheticals in this context.

I think it's a very useful point to flag. These details are important.

[–] Gigasser@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Doesn't that just make it easier for the US to conscript people?

[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Just fail it so that you would need a waiver to join

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 10 points 2 days ago

That just means you are the cannon fodder style infantry. You'll be the guy sent out to catch a drone or two.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Just fail it

So you can be shuffled in with the grunts rather than the officers?

The military loves putting dumb-dumbs through basic and stacking them on the front lines to catch stray bullets.

[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I mean, you can also fail out at basic too IIRC.

Also, you need a college degree to be a commissioned officer.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You only fall out of basic if you're an invalid. The military is very good at beating compliance into anyone else.

[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You can absolutely get chaptered out for failing basic multiple times.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Given the degree of physical, psychological, and - not uncommonly - sexual abuse you experience along the way, I wouldn't recommend the experience.

[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You sound like you are objecting for the sake of objection. You have been provably wrong in certain cases.

I wouldn’t recommend the military either, but there are facts and then there are falsehoods. You have been treading on the side of falsehoods and that is mighty dangerous because abuse of all kinds does occur in the armed forces. However, the amount of incorrect information you have been touting may lead people to believe that the abuse suffered are falsehoods as well.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

You have been treading on the side of falsehoods

If you've been through basic or seen people who have, you'd recognize how difficult it is to fail out and how easy it is to simply be abused into a sufficient state of compliance.

[–] wirebeads@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Or if ever American says they’re gay, they’d never join the military because DEI and such.

Or just be black, brown, Asian, trans, a celebrity or rich. America doesn’t want any of that in the military either

[–] Triasha@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

They don't want poc or women to be career.

They want women pregnant, so they are "safe" in that sense. They want white officers commanding brown conscripts to go do the dying.

[–] entwine413@lemm.ee 3 points 2 days ago

Just don't ace it or every branch of the military will start harassing you at home trying to get you to join.

[–] CaptainPedantic@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's a 3 hour aptitude test. Are you good at math? Are you good at electronics? Etc. I would imagine it's a minor speed bump to joining the military.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 1 points 2 days ago

No. The hardest math is some insanely light algebra too. X = 5y kind of stuff.

It still opens the door to enlistment and being harassed to join the military, conning poor kids into making a mistake.

[–] 7U5K3N@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Huh... They made all of us take it. But I went to school in a rural red state in the mid 90s.

[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You went to the shit schools, I went to school in the south, they gerrymandered them so the kids of poor parents took them while the rich kids didn't (and got actual schooling).

[–] 7U5K3N@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 days ago

Yep 100% went to a shit school. I'd not be surprised if the asvab paid the school for each person that took it

[–] MintyFresh@lemmy.world -3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Lol have you seen kids these days? I'd be surprised if more than 15 percent are fit for service, and of that 15% maybe half would pass a drug screen.

[–] ploot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 29 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Kids in the 1960s were the same, and the USA still sent them off to get killed, maimed, and traumatized for the rest of their lives.

[–] MintyFresh@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

It's a fucking depressing state of affairs....

[–] lumony@lemmings.world 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

All in the name of... checks notes

Fighting communism.

Really puts into perspective who is pulling the strings over in the Land of Freedom. Here's a hint: their children are never the ones to die in a war.

It's genius, really. Convincing the working class to literally sacrifice their children for a system that supports the ruling class. Brilliant.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

No, childhood obesity is way up since then.

[–] Grimtuck@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

Fat people can still fly drones and kill political enemies

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 20 points 2 days ago

Have you seen what Russia is throwing out to get blown up? As long as you can absorb some rounds they don't care.