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[–] AccountMaker@slrpnk.net 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

lol, actually, good science would be on the left side of the image, at least after giving an answer to a question. Good science will actually prove something, then give the answer, then have no reason to continue to find another answer for it (whatever the issue is.) If you are giving a different answer year after year (like say for the age of the earth), then aren't you admitting that so far you haven't known the answer?

That's not really the take of the modern philosophy of science. All modern schools of thought when it comes to science have the acceptance of falsehoods embedded into their nodels. I'll give a few examples:

Karl Popper famously stated that science cannot prove that anything is true, only that something is false. Thus, any scientific theory that's still accepted is regarded as not yet being proven wrong. Science is just a cycle of giving theories, proving them wrong, giving new ones to account for the problem of the old one and so on, ever getting closer to the truth, but never arriving.

Thomas Kuhn wrote about scientific paradigms, which are models of the field in question that every scientist uses (for example Aristotelian motion, which was surpassed by Newtonian mechanics, which were surpassed by Einstein's relativity). During the period of "normal science", scientists are using their established methods until they end up with too many problems they cannot resolve, at which point it is accepted that the paradigm cannot hold up, and a scientific revolution needs to bring forth a new paradigm, that is incomparable with the old one. Some knowledge is lost in this process, but we move on until the next crisis.

Paul Feyerabend wrote about countet-induction, which prevents science becoming a dogma. An example he gives is Copernicus going completely against the science of his time with his heliocentric system. The Ptolemaic system was as cutting edge science back then as quantum mechanics is today.

All in all, findings being continuously disproven and replaced by new ones is not bad science, it is science. Achieving actual, "true", positive knowledge of the world, documenting it and saying "that's it, we solved this problem, we're done" is not something modern science event attempts at.

[–] sfu@lemm.ee -3 points 2 days ago

*"Achieving actual, “true”, positive knowledge of the world... is not something modern science event attempts at." * -Well, that there is the problem. And if that's the case, and modern scientists believe this, then why are they always talking about something as if they know it for a fact?

"Karl Popper famously stated that science cannot prove that anything is true, only that something is false." -Well, he is wrong, of course you can prove things to be true.

If you're science is replaced, then you never proved anything, and should not speak as if you know for sure what you are talking about. But modern scientists talk this way all the time.