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[–] tree_frog@lemm.ee 0 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Well I think the real question is what are your ethics if you encounter another human being when you have retreated into the woods?

Do you avoid them? If so that's just being a political which is fine. Nothing wrong with a person living alone in the woods

Do you try to dominate or exploit them? If so that is libertarianism.

Do you work toward partnership and mutual aid? If so that's anarchism.

That's on an individual level. If you scale it up we can find all sorts of tribalistic tendencies within these two models. Exploiting the out group and trying to partner with the in group. As our government likes to do with the global south and well, historically the West.

And you can also extend this model into other species, like if you are peaceful person toward animals then maybe you see them as your friends or partners instead of as being that you can exploit. Or, like in our culture's case, we apply that selectively to certain animals. We exploit some and partner with others .

[–] TheFudd@lemmy.world 0 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Well I think the real question is what are your ethics if you encounter another human being when you have retreated into the woods? ... Do you avoid them?

Yes. "Get off my lawn" would be the appropriate response.

Do you try to dominate or exploit them? If so that is libertarianism.

No, that is not Libertarianism. Libertarians want very small government, focusing on protection of one's rights and one's property.

lib·er·tar·i·an·ism

/ˌlibərˈterēəˌniz(ə)m/

noun: libertarianism

  • a political philosophy that advocates only minimal state intervention in the free market and the private lives of citizens.

Do you work toward partnership and mutual aid? If so that’s anarchism.

No, that is not anarchism. Anarchists want no government whatsoever.

an·ar·chism

/ˈanərˌkizəm/

noun

noun: anarchism

  • a political theory advocating the abolition of hierarchical government and the organization of society on a voluntary, cooperative basis without recourse to force or compulsion.

No offense, but honestly? I find anarchism to be even more ridiculous than libertarianism, and us libertarians are absolutely ridiculous. Sure, "voluntarism" sounds good on paper but what ends up happening looks more like Somalia in practice.

[–] tree_frog@lemm.ee 0 points 4 days ago (2 children)

And the free market is by nature exploitive.

Partnering with others is by nature not. You don't need a government if folks are working together.

Anyway I'm over this conversation. If you want to justify your identifying with robber barons go ahead. But we've been here before.

You're not fooling anyone except yourself maybe