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the cold war (sh.itjust.works)
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[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 49 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Everybody sucks but you really should be cheering for Firefox in such a fight. Even now.

[–] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Fuck that, Waterfox

[–] edinbruh@feddit.it 17 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Stupid argument. None of the various Firefox forks has any chance to keep existing without Firefox. You should still cheer for Firefox

[–] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

You can do both

[–] TRock@feddit.dk 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

But you dont

[–] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 7 hours ago

I support the Firefox Ideal, but don't support the new direction.

So !waterfox@programming.dev works best for me.

And Firefox do have telemetry for whose using the forks anyhow, so they know when they lose customers due to their terrible decisions

[–] onehundredsixtynine@sh.itjust.works -4 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

None of the various Firefox forks has any chance to keep existing without Firefox

False.

[–] edinbruh@feddit.it 6 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Right, let me rephrase "no Firefox fork worth using has any chance to maintain meaningful existence without upstream Firefox"

I'm sure many forks will go on surviving from scraps if Firefox disappeared tomorrow. But they wouldn't get anything useful done.

Let me put this into perspective, Microsoft (a trillion dollar company that would benefit enormously from rolling their own browser engine) didn't have the resources for maintaining a browser engine.

[–] i_love_FFT@jlai.lu 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

A for-profit company "not having resources" usually means that the product department decided it's not worth investing. Doesn't tell us anything about the actual effort required to maintain such a software.

[–] edinbruh@feddit.it 0 points 3 hours ago

Yes, but you can think for yourself and you and Amy product manager know how much they would benefit (just as much as Google and Apple, other for profit companies of the same caliber) and you know they would have the means to produce such software (just like Apple and Google). So, knowing that they still decided it's not worth the investment, you can infer that the cost would be immense.

Also, all the other points still stand.

[–] yggstyle@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

See related: pfsense and opnsense.

Its entirely possible for a fork to survive if the cause is supported. Both things can still exist provided there is interest and support.

Switching browsers isn't hard. For now, personally, I'll take the fork that isn't trying to literally be the "yo dog..." meme.