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[–] tal@lemmy.today 179 points 1 day ago (5 children)

“My goal is to eliminate every line of C and C++ from Microsoft by 2030,” Microsoft distinguished engineer Galen Hunt wrote in a recent LinkedIn post.

“Our strategy is to combine AI and Algorithms to rewrite Microsoft’s largest codebases,” he added. “Our North Star is ‘1 engineer, 1 month, 1 million lines of code.’”

Well, I expect it'll be exciting, one way or another.

[–] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 53 points 1 day ago

Well, I expect it’ll be exciting, one way or another.

This gives the curse "may you live in interesting times" vibes

[–] plz1@lemmy.world 44 points 1 day ago

You know it's going to be successful when they go back to using antiquated productivity measurements like measuring based on lines of code in a time frame. We all know AI is fucking spectacular at generating overly verbose code.

[–] HaraldvonBlauzahn@feddit.org 31 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

“Our strategy is to combine AI and Algorithms to rewrite Microsoft’s largest codebases,” he added. “Our North Star is ‘1 engineer, 1 month, 1 million lines of code.’”

That's insane. Even a good engineer will frequently need years to fully understand one million lines of code - even if the code is organized very, very well.

To compare, one million lines of program code might have around 100000 to 200000 unique symbols whose meaning and complex connections an engineer working with it has to learn and memorize. That's far more than the average vocabulary one will learn in five years when learning a foreign language to a high skill level. Doing it in a month would be like learning to read and write fine Japanese or Arab literature in a month when you have never spoken a word in that language before.

The Linux kernel has now passed 40 million lines of code, written over 30 years by tens of thousands of master programmers. And that's kind of a historic achievement. What happens is that complexity increases sharply with each duplication of the amount of code.

[–] msage@programming.dev 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Kinda still your point, but if you have one engineer producing 1M SLOC, how many do you have for code review?

I hate how everyone nowadays is acting like reviews are not important. Actual oversight over codebase is way less important than shipping random code. Which is insane.

[–] MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago (3 children)

GitHub Copilot performs PR reviews now doesn't it

[–] msage@programming.dev 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, that's exactly what we need.

LLM producing the code

LLM approving the change

LLM agent pushing to prod

Then wonder why the users are gone

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 3 points 12 hours ago

Replace users with LLMs too.

[–] TheBlackLounge@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 day ago

It's not great.

[–] ferrule@sh.itjust.works 2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

it is not much better than just running a linter over your code.

[–] MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 1 points 17 hours ago

Not disagreeing with you there

[–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 19 hours ago

So to be paid I have to delete 1M lines of code every month. Gotcha.

[–] bravesirrbn@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

I always love how business bros use the term "Algorithm(s)" (and now also "AI") as if that was just a magic incantation or something that you just switch on and it immediately solves whatever problem you might have.

All that's needed is that the wizard comes up with the right spell and then everything just works and the business is generating infinite money!