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[–] grue@lemmy.world 19 points 16 hours ago (4 children)

It's not adopted widely because every single smart home device marketed to normies is infected with cloud bullshit. Go to Home Depot or whatever and look on the shelf: literally every single product will have "Works with Alexa," "Works with Google Home," and/or "Works with Apple HomeKit" badges stamped all over the package, but not a single one will mention a damn thing about Home Assistant even when the device actually is compatible. The closest you get is ones that mention "Matter" 'cause it's at least supposed to be a standard, but it feels like it's getting slow-walked harder than CableCard sometimes (and if you don't remember how that worked out, the answer is "not well").

I would almost call it a conspiracy against openness, but it's really just the banal result of no rent-seeking leading to no excess profit to plow back into marketing... which is even worse.

[–] ChaosMonkey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 11 hours ago

Tasmota can help getting rid of the cloud bullshit on most ESP based devices. Of course it requires some tinkering and is not accessible to all users.

[–] JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Few of them also could be open, but just don't advertise it.
IKEA stuff was all ZigBee, now upgrading to add matter support, so you could mix and match them with Philips Hue, Agara, Nedis and quite a few others. Main issue is always software support on the hub or app - Ikea has no smart thermostats, so even though it can connect to them, they don't show up properly. That's where Home Assistant shines, as it supports basically everything imaginable.

But you are right, most are proprietary because they want to lock you to their ecosystems. Exactly like cordless power tools and their batteries.

[–] heatermcteets@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Once you get it setup, start looking for homeassistant compatible hardware instead. There is a lot. Even some big brands use protocols (zigbee, zwave, matter) that can connect to homeassistant without a need for their hub (granted you do have a HA hub) or cloud connection.

I try to stay away from WiFi if possible, but if home assistant compatible I’ll use it.

[–] dass93@lemmy.zip 1 points 12 hours ago

The only one i can think about is Aqara there have a home assistant stampel.