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Are you just going to go around on circles? I already wrote in a previous post on this thread:
I am discussing Pedophilia because that is the subject UPU chose. If you'd like to discuss any of his other vile characteristics, like Treason, or Racism, or Ignorance, or Incompetence, etc., I'd be glad to, but the subject of this specific debate was pedophilia, so it's disingenuous to blame ME for the choice of subject.
So to be clear, you do consider all of maga to be felons, rapists, con men, and racketeers?
It’s confusing because you used a completely different set of words from the ones I did.
Or is it only the things they “are” instead of things they “do?”
Your line for when you decide to redefine a word just seems arbitrary.
Those characterizations depend on circumstances. Many of those labels (con men, racketeers, etc.) fall under the general category of corruption. A felon needs to have convicted of a felony. Rapist? Sure, that applies to Trump, and I usually include it. Frankly, it was oversight, so feel free to add it to my list. AreAGAs rapists? Probably not technically, but they are Rapist adjacent. Apparently they support rape.
Who's "redefining" anything?
Pedophile doesn’t though?
Agreed.
Fully agreed.
What is your definition of pedophile?
This entire conversation is around your change of the definition of this word to include these asshats instead of just conceding they are “pedophile adjacent.”
No, Pedophiles are a special category. If you have a confirmed pedophile living in your house, actively molesting children, and you cover for them, make excuses, offer alibis, deny their behavior, etc., then you are just as guilty of pedophilia as they are. It's just like when a group plans and commits a murder, it isn't just the triggerman who gets charged with murder, it's also his accomplices.
If you know there are pedophiles among your organization, and you don't enthusiastically root them out, and instead cover for them, you are guilty of pedophilia also.
What is your definition of pedophile?
Why doesn’t your murder example extend to voters? Or does it?
A pedophile is anyone who participates in the sexual abuse of underage people.
If Trump was openly committing murder, and MAGA voters were supporting it and defending it, I absolutely would accuse them of murder. I'm getting pretty close with the boat bombings, but I'm still short of calling it murder just yet, but I'm getting there. I'm saving that charge for when he trains his murderous inclinations on American citizens.
I see, so is "participates" the word you want to argue about now?
For the sake of argument, let's assume that Luigi Mangione did in fact kill Brian Thompson. Are all of the people who support him murderers?
You can accuse anybody of whatever you like. Doesn't make it so.
I see no reason to "argue" about the word "participation." You can try to argue about it, but my meaning is clear, arguing about parsing words is boring, and I have no more to add in that regard.
No, because killing a Corporate Serial Killer for Profit isn't murder, it's defense of others, and legal.
And/Or
It wasn't murder at all, just a normal, predictable correction to the Free Market. The Corporate Serial Killer's policies went so far in abusing his customers that they eventually spawned a customer so angry that he ended the source of those abusive policies. Studies show that following the hit, not only his company, but other health care companies as well, loosened their approval policies for a time, proving that it WAS a Free Market correction. That's not murder, that's Economics.
All I’m arguing. All I’ve been arguing the entire time, is that you are broadening definitions of words to include people they otherwise would not. Apparently you don’t feel it’s sufficient to call them accomplices (you got close with your murder example on this one), enablers, cult members, or any of the other countless words and phrases we have that would be accurate.
You’ve made it pretty clear that you don’t actually want to argue that point, and yet you’re still here.
"I voted for Mr. Hitler because he'd be good for the economy. I didn't go in for all that Jew-killing stuff, you can't blame that on me." - German citizen, 1946
There are no accomplices, enablers, etc. if you support and defend murder, you'll be charged with murder. Don't like that? Don't help with murder.
That’s quaint.