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Or, hell, even if Bill Clinton is a weird old criminal creep, he's still willing to throw himself under the bus to destroy another weird old criminal creep. He's in effect saying "Yeah, motherfucker, let's do this thing. I'm willing to destroy what's left of my public reputation if it'll take you down, too."
He may have done stuff, but even if he did he knows it's not in the files. If it was in the files Trump would have released it by now.
This is probably the more likely one. I don't for a second believe that if they had something concrete on Bill or any prominent Democrat really they wouldn't have been blasting it from the rooftops already.
If that was true, Biden would have released the files.
Not necessarily, Dem Politicians are by and large brainrotted by shit like "Institutional Trust," "Procedures," "Norms," and "Civility."
They'd all rather sit back and "Let the Justice Department do their jobs," telling us to "Trust the process," because that's "What's always been done." It was only after that process broke down and Trump was very clearly trying to quash anything Epstein related that Normie Dem Politicians started really talking about releasing the files. Had he not, the most we'd have gotten was calls for the DoJ to reopen the investigation.
Why do you think Biden's DoJ didn't do their jobs then?
Any number of reasons ranging from the Evil and Cynical "Because all of them are trying to protect the traffickers," to the Pedestrian and Banal "Because once you believe that the institutions do their jobs competently it's easy to think that any time they didn't is just because there wasn't any 'job to do' so to speak."
Well we know there was a job to do given how many times Trump has shown up.
Yeah, the idea would be that people who hadn't looked at the files (Incompetent) trusted that the reason the people who had (Corrupt) hadn't charged anyone was because there wasn't anything to charge them with. Because their Precious Institutions are Generally Good and don't make mistakes like this.
So the lower level people in Biden's DoJ were covering up for pedophiles, and the leadership appointed by Biden didn't know?
Did Trump appoint all the DoJ rank-and-file?
In what fucking world? Okay so you're a total fucking clown operating in complete bad faith, got it. Enjoy continuing this conversation with the void, I'm just blocking you lmao
I am trying to understand the model that libs are running on where Biden's DoJ protected a pedophile ring that only included the political opposition. I can understand the rest of the dems believing that the DoJ didn't have anything, and sure, I could imagine leadership being so incompetent they didn't look themselves, but someone at some point read the shit we are seeing and decided to act like there was nothing there.
Somehow Biden covered this all up and hes a master genius while popping blood vessels in his eye and saying we'll defeat medicare, and its fine to cover up pedophiles in the vague hope it brings Trump down in 5 years.
It's magic levels of thinking from libs.
It doesn't require Biden himself do anything.
I think its as simple as people within the admin who knew it would damage their own party too advising against doing a real investigation, DoJ has limited resources, etc.
I mean they didn't stop Trump on purpose, so it makes sense.
Democrats are too polite to rock the boat.
That is precisely my point. We need evidence.
We know he cheated on his wife, but Monica was 20+. Is there anything linking him besides "the Clintons?"
We won't know until we have them all? In the mean-time, its kinda weird for you to prentend Him and Trump and Epstein weren't all openly chumy with eachother for decades.
Why does everyone seem to assume that Epstein offered every guest a sex trafficked child like offering visitors to your house a drink?
Also why does everyone assume that the only reason he got away with it for so long is that "literally everyone was in on it" and not that he was careful about who and how people were brought in.
Thats why the UNREDACTED files need to be released.
He had multiple houses. The one on the island had a purpose. There's no reason for him to have brought people there who didn't already know all-about it.
Bill needs well-wishers who believe he's innocent today like Hillary needed the "Bimbo Squad" while he was in office.
EDIT: While I would looove for Bill to face consequences, the most baffling part of all this to me is the idiots "rising to the occassion" to defend him from consequences that we all know won't happen, or pretending that his reputation deserves to be squeeky-clean just because he almost-certainly won't be charged.
Why THE FUCK are y'all so worked-up about what's said about yet another rich old white man that is in no way, shape, or form any better than the rest? Is marrying Ms "super-predator" a flex in your world? Shut up and go sit at the back of the class with the rest of the deplorables.
Based on the number of videos and photos the FBI collected, it would seem he did business dealings (some was finance and some was geopolitical advising) and sussed out whom he could leverage. Recorded them in the acts to blackmail them later as needed.
There were some leaked documents on here today that were mostly underacted, and even the redacted portions you can highlight and copy paste and shows you the true text underneath. Its not The List, but it shows how deep he was in trafficking girls 12-17 on the island and had various shell companies setup to move money around and pay girls in different countries.
The lawyer that got him day release the first time seems to be involved somehow, like he had dirt on many upper people that the lawyers and judge didn't not want public.
The newest news regarding Clinton and Epstein is pretty old--bit so much for Trump. Clinton also argued to release everything. I'm not a Clinton fan, but I'm not seeing it rn.
Trump? Dude was convicted of rape and (among other things) bragged about walking in on children changing was a perk of owning a beauty pageant.
Be a grown adult and wait for actual evidence.
You want to stan a dude who bombed a bunch of people, privatized prisons, sabotaged public schools, almost doubled the prison population and was buddies with Epstien and Trump?
Be my guest, but don't pretend for a second that makes you the mature or more masculine or whatever person in this conversation. Low-standard status-quo-apologists gonna simp a dude with a saxophone no matter what I guess.
Nope. Don't even like him much. If he is guilty let justice come. Look back at my original post. I'm suggesting the preponderance of evidence suggests Trump hurt children, not Clinton.
Actually, I'm quite certain there is no evidence against Clinton--otherwise the Trump justice department would already be pursuing him as a distraction.
I think you are looking too hard for tribalism here, or perhaps you just need "my guy" to be as guilty as "your guy."
Truth is that Trump is just worse.
You're the one projecting your own tribalism. Trump is so much my guy that I've spent every day since he "won" a second-term plotting to flee the country. Worse doesn't exhonerate Clinton, and no one's pretending either is remotely innocent besides you.
Why didn't they pursue Clinton? Nevermind that him and Trump are FRIENDS, Bill has the money and clout to make sure that everyone involved is outed in discovery at-trial.
Neither of them wants the target that would put on their backs, so Trump is stuck trying to fight the full release of the files at all costs, and Bill is free to say whatever he wants from a position where no one demands that he bring all that he's really capable-of to bear...
... so go on, appluad him for saying the equivalent of "Orange Man Bad" or "The Sky is Blue". Jazz-daddy sees your efforts, and if you're really good, you can get a mouthfull of him just like Trump did.
Homie It's a well known fact that Clinton was buddy buddy with Epstien and Trump, there's been pictures for decades of them together, him on the flight logs, etc etc.
Its like you think only the latest dump of info is real?
What illegal activity has it confirmed?
That's all any MAGA needs, and most Dems, too.
Yeah my bet with this is that he kept it above the age of consent even if questionably low and maybe knew about more.