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[–] Socialism_Everyday@reddthat.com -2 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Yes, many tankies like me are supporters of the state that saved Europe from fascism including tens of millions of people from extermination. Also supportive of the lowest inequality rates in the history of the region, rapid industrialization, guaranteed employment, universal healthcare, free education to the highest level, guaranteed housing, universal retirement pensions, highest rates of unionization, and doubling-tripling of life expectancy, without engaging in colonialism or unequal exchange and supporting liberation movements all over Latin America, Africa and Asia.

[–] lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.com 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Is this a chatgpt response for "List lots of advantages of positive things about the sowjet union and ignore the negative stuff"?

It was so successful that 4 districts of it decided to leave it in 1990 and 11 more in 1991.

[–] Socialism_Everyday@reddthat.com 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Whataboutism and accusing me of being a chatbot, thats a 2 for 1!

If Euroep is so good, why did the entirety of Africa, Asia and Latin America have literal independence wars to leave it?

accusing me of being a chatbot

nope, I questioned whether you might have consulted a chatbot.

Whataboutism

Says the person who

  1. literally responded with "WHAT ABOUT [List of positive things done by sowjet union]???" on my first comment 😅

  2. asks "WHAT ABOUT Europe????" 1 line after accusing me of whataboutism 😅


I'm sure, we could fill multiple pages with circular responses like "But your state bad because XY", followed by "But your state worse because of YZ", but I don't have time for this. Maybe, you find someone else...

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Isn't tankie describing when China used tanks against their own people? I thought it referenced Tiananmen Square.

[–] Socialism_Everyday@reddthat.com 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The original term "tankie" refers to the usage of tanks way earlier, by the USSR in the Czechoslovak revolution attempt.

China did not use tanks against civilians in the Tiananmen protests, the famous picture of "tank man" is a screenshot of a video in which the civilian stops the tank, has a ten minute conversation with the tank driver, and then goes away by himself.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

So why is June 4th banned and you can't talk about Tiananmen Square in China then?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DbijSAH1-Q

[–] Socialism_Everyday@reddthat.com 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Can you show me the particular moment in the 2h long video in which the tanks are firing on / rolling over protestors?

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Can you give me a timestamp?

[–] s23b@programming.dev 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

As someone who grew up in an ex Warsaw Pact country, reading your characterization of the USSR is hilarious to me.

Imagine a Native American reading comments that are praising the US for how well they've done by them by giving them casinos.

[–] Socialism_Everyday@reddthat.com 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, you grew up in an ex Warsaw Pact country, not in a Warsaw Pact country. Keep blaming the problems of capitalism on the system that you had 35 years ago. If it weren't for the USSR, your ancestors would have likely been exterminated by Nazis.

[–] s23b@programming.dev 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Make assumptions about me and my ancestry at our first interaction, I'm sure you will eventually convince someone you're arguing in good faith.

[–] Socialism_Everyday@reddthat.com 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I can argue with you in at all because you're alive thanks to the USSR. Almost all Warsaw pact peoples were liable to Nazi extermination, if you belong to the few who were not, it's not a good argument either. "Nazis wouldn't have exterminated me!"

[–] s23b@programming.dev 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Well I hate to disappoint you, but for me the weight of your narrative pales in comparison to the first hand accounts of my actual ancestors.

[–] Socialism_Everyday@reddthat.com 0 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Again: you have ancestors because of the Soviets.

I'm a Spaniard myself, if you ask some of my ancestors, "con Franco se vivía mejor". You know, under a fascist dictatorship. So no, the "argument from authority by old people" isn't convincing to me.

I wish the Soviets had liberated my country from fascism too, unfortunately my country is on the other side of the continent and the Soviet aid during the Spanish Civil War was insufficient (likely due to being the only country to sell weapons to the antifascists while Nazi Germany bombed them and the rest of the world looked the other way).

[–] s23b@programming.dev 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Again: on one hand I have the stories of my actual relatives who lived under and lost people to both nazi and communist terror, on the other hand I have an internet stranger, who doesn't seem to be interested in anything that goes against their preconceived notions.

I suggest you spend your energy somewhere else, because your line of reasoning will be either insulting, or laughable to anyone in my position.

[–] Socialism_Everyday@reddthat.com 0 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Sorry your relatives were fascists. My great grandfather got murdered by the reds in Spain and I don't cry anticommunism on the internet because he probably deserved it. I only feel bad about having fascist ancestors.

[–] s23b@programming.dev 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Are you under the assumption that only fascists were persecuted under communist dictatorships, or are you just being mean?

[–] Socialism_Everyday@reddthat.com 0 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Not only but majorly, especially outside the USSR, which took the brunt of the excessive repressions in the period between 1939 and 1942.

[–] s23b@programming.dev 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Well I guess being well informed on a topic is not strictly required to form an identity around it on the internet. Being ignorant sure seems to help with the confidence tho.

[–] Socialism_Everyday@reddthat.com 0 points 3 hours ago

I'll repeat: you can thank the Bolsheviks from saving your bloodline from extinction.