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[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

they also, as a group, tend to be more likely to be offending pedos, rapists, domestic abusers, and mass shooters. which for me reinforces the idea that they aren’t people.

Also, see... this is an obstacle on your part I would dismantle as readily as I would dismantle some chud's idea that liberals are all groomers or something. While it's true that conservatism seems to draw in people who are social rejects, there are plenty of people around you who you would think are allies and great people who have their own skeletons and things that you would be appalled by.

Part of affecting change in the world and changing people is about getting out of your own head, it's never about your own vindication or justice or creating the idea circumstance or changing someone to suit you. It only works when you genuinely make it about the other person, and to get there you have to discard judgement or preconceptions. Again, it's hard and I don't blame people for not wanting to, but if more people at least tried, I think we could make great changes in the world.

[–] pieland@piefed.social 1 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

never said there aren’t terrible leftists. there are plenty. people in general are terrible.

statistically speaking, right wingers are worse. this is factual. don’t gaslight me.

i’m afraid of confrontation and i’m friendly enough that horrible people feel comfortably trauma-dumping on me, but they never feel comfortable changing.

i tend to be a pretty validating person and they love that. but the one time i call them out on something they need to do better, their defenses go up. no one is actually interested in being a good person, they just want to be told they’re a good person.

i’m disabled and i get assigned caregivers from a local agency. a caregiver casually told me she’s a pedophile (trump supporter too btw). people are too comfortable around me.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

don’t gaslight me.

The fact that you sense "gaslighting" in casual conversation about reframing perspective for better material results tells me you have a ways to go before you should even attempt to throw yourself into an emotional cold-war confrontation with anyone who might see you as some kind of ideological opponent.

Seriously, this is out of left field for the tone of our convo so far, that I don't think I want to reply anymore because there are a lot of things in life that are hard to hear or challenging, and if you can't handle that in the mildest form without recoiling and fearing that you're the one being manipulated, there is no CHANCE of you changing someone else. You have to have a LOT stronger self-worth.