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[–] 3abas@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

You're arguing with a point no one is really making. Yes, we get it, they aren't obligated to deliver more than they did.

We understand you, you're technically correct and it's very irrelevant. You're arguing over the specific words someone chose when they started a sentence with "Lol", they were probably sitting on a toilet, this isn't an academic paper.

Instead of laser focusing on the exact wording they used in a throwaway online comment, try to focus on what they mean. You said it yourself:

If you think the US and UK didn't do enough in this regard then fair enough

Do you think Ukraine would have given up their Nukes if they believed in good faith that they would "do enough" when they are invaded?

And btw, you also said

but I don't their actions were as bad as Russia invading Ukraine.

Which again is a point no one is making. Yeah, of course Russia is to blame for Russia invading Ukraine. If Ukraine had Nukes, Russia wouldn't have invaded Ukraine. It was a bad idea for Ukraine's independence to give up their nukes, that's the argument being made.

Now do you understand it?