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LG TVs’ unremovable Copilot shortcut is the least of smart TVs’ AI problems (arstechnica.com)
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Even with LG’s concession, it may become more difficult to avoid chatbots on TVs.

LG says it will let people delete the Copilot icon from their TVs soon, but it still has plans to weave the service throughout webOS. The Copilot web app rollout seems to have been a taste of LG’s bigger plans to add Copilot to some of its 2025 OLED TVs. In a January announcement, LG said Copilot will help users find stuff to watch by “allowing users to efficiently find and organize complex information using contextual cues.” LG also said Copilot would “proactively” identify potential user problems and offer “timely, effective solutions.”

Some TVs from LG’s biggest rival, Samsung, have included Copilot since August. Owners of supporting 2025 TVs can speak to Copilot using their remote’s microphone. They can also access Copilot via the Tizen OS homescreen’s Apps tab or through the TVs’ Click to Search feature, which lets users press a dedicated remote button to search for content while watching live TV or Samsung TV Plus. Users can also ask the TV to make AI-generated wallpapers or provide real-time subtitle translations.

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[–] harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 20 hours ago (4 children)

I will need to replace my TV next year and I'm really not looking forward to it.

I will be hooking my two consoles (Series X and PS5), then all I need is something that I can put Emby and SmartTube on.

Are the Onn sticks still a good option?

[–] sun_is_ra@sh.itjust.works 3 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

if you could purchase a basic/dump TV with no features at all and buy raspberry pi separately, you could install Android on raspberry pi and connect the two together

[–] Pechente@feddit.org 13 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

Not sure if it changed in the last year or so since I bought my tv but isn’t the issue that there are essentially no dumb tvs? The closest I could find were big monitors intended to be commercial public displays but they came with their own set of issues. In the end I bought a smart tv and I it’s quite bad.

[–] harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

That's what my search keeps coming up with - commercial display models. I don't know enough about them to make a good decision, though. I guess I'll keep digging.

[–] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 19 hours ago

Those displays are made to be very bright and usually have a lot of backlight bleed.

[–] sun_is_ra@sh.itjust.works 2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

searching "non-smart tv" on amazon yield many results as long as you don't require highend brand like samsung or LG

[–] harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 19 hours ago

I'm trying to avoid Amazon but I'll look there to see what I can learn.

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

it's not that complicated, just get a smart TV and don't connect it to your network. quite easy to never use any of the built in apps if you only use your own inputs sources.

[–] Pechente@feddit.org 3 points 9 hours ago

That’s exactly what I do but that doesn’t magically shield me from the bad software running on these machines. The OS is still unstable, tries to apply a bunch of filters that need to be disabled, has extreme lag unless gaming mode is being used and has stupid UI decisions like putting the audio level exactly where the subtitles usually are so that changing audio will obfuscate them. Once every 24h I‘m also getting a warning that the tv is not connected to the internet, despite network connectivity being explicitly disabled.

[–] Lfrith@lemmy.ca 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I think laptop or mini pc is the best. Casting might not be an option, but its nice not having to deal with apps at all if you want to watch something on the TV, and picking up a cheap wireless keyboard with touchpad makes it a nice combo.

[–] harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I was thinking I'd do a pinhole and maybe a minipc. I've never had much luck with casting.

[–] Lfrith@lemmy.ca 3 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Linux on minipc with a cheap wireless keyboard like the k400 is a great combo. Won't be seeing ads with that, since on browser you'll have ublock origin for things pihole can't block.

[–] harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Very true. I'll need to buy a pi and play with that first.

[–] ngdev@lemmy.zip 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

if youre getting a minipc you can run pi hole or adguard on that instead of getting both. unless you just want a pi, theyre pretty cool

[–] harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 hours ago

My router points to adguard, so I'd probably just run pi hole on the minipc.

[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I have an LG. They have a jellyfin app. Just block the access to other stuff and it's fine, if not actually good.

I don't use or need a seperste streaming box. I don't get data mining or ads.

[–] harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

I need Emby - a friend runs his stuff on it. I'll eventually move towards self-hosting all my own stuff, but that's months away.

[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 2 points 12 hours ago

LG has both so it keeps your options open. Some tvs don't have either or both and you need a seperate box to act as your client.

Some people prefer not to connect their smart tv and instead connect a box they have more control over. I find the LG app to be perfectly good for me and prefer to keep it simple and just block other network access.

[–] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Jellyfin and Emby are kinda the same thing.

[–] harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

So, I can use Jellyfin client to watch stuff off his Emby server? Interesting.

[–] jjlinux@lemmy.zip 2 points 13 hours ago

No, you cannot. If your friend has an Emby server you'll need the Emby client for remote viewing (unless you friend is willing to go through a whole lot of hoops to provide direct DLNA remotely, which is a real PITA).

[–] jjlinux@lemmy.zip 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I'm in the same boat, need 2 new TVs in May of 2026. Seriously considering Sceptre TVs for that.

[–] harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 hours ago

I haven't heard of Sceptre. I'll take a look.