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Developers of apps that use end-to-end encryption to protect private communications could be considered hostile actors in the UK.

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[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 11 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Doesn't even RCS and iMessages use E2EE?

I think most messaging apps these days have it. Allegedly even Discord (calls only, not text chat) has it.

[–] brotato@slrpnk.net 10 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I think part of this is lawmakers not understanding the gravity of what they’re suggesting. Besides, most of these apps have some sort of backdoor built-in so they can decrypt messages if required in legal proceedings. Ripping E2EE out of everything is an insane assertion to make, and would make the Internet an even more dangerous place than it already is.

[–] fonix232@fedia.io 2 points 10 hours ago

Most definitely this.

Most lawmakers don't understand even the surface level nuances of messaging and encryption. All they see is a communication solution that can potentially be used by bad faith actors without any possible oversight by the intelligence services.

[–] partofthevoice@lemmy.zip 2 points 11 hours ago

Does iMessage store the keys locally and encrypt the entire message so only the recipient can decrypt it? Any idea what their handshake looks like—I’m curious if they can still see the messages or not.