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[–] GamingChairModel@lemmy.world -4 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

It's bizarre how if you drove through twenty bus stops in three days, you would not only lose your license but be in jail on multiple charges.

This is a relatively unique Texas law that requires cars to stop when school buses are loading or unloading passengers, including on the opposite side of the road going the other direction. The self driving companies didn't program for that special use case, so it actually is a relatively easy fix in software.

And the human drivers who move to Texas often get tripped up by this law, because many aren't aware of the requirement.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 6 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

It isn't a unique Texas Law. It's law everywhere in the US and Canada.

"mostly all in North America, require all surrounding vehicles to stop when a school bus is stopped with its red lights flashing."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_bus_traffic_stop_laws

"And the human drivers who move to Texas often get tripped up by this law, because many aren't aware of the requirement."

Only if you are from a different country.

Which is beside the point that if anyone else drove through 20 bus stops, they couldn't use the excuse, "I'm from another country so I don't know your laws." to get out of jail.

That it's a software fix is also beside the point. "Oh I drove illegally 20 times. I know better and won't do it again."

[–] GamingChairModel@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

The default in most other states is that opposite direction traffic on a divided highway don't have to stop. The states differ in what constitutes a divided highway, but generally at least 5 feet of space or a physical barrier between the lanes would qualify. In Texas, however, there is no exception for divided highways, and the key definition is "controlled-access highway," which requires on/off ramps and physical barriers between traffic directions, or "different roadways,"

So for a 5-lane road where there are 2 lanes going in each direction with a center lane for left turns, Texas requires opposite direction traffic to stop, while most other states do not.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

The incidents had nothing to do with divided highways. You can see the video is at residential streets.

https://youtu.be/vhxInHCtYGw

[–] sacredfire@programming.dev 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, a lot of school bus stops on five lane highways… /s

[–] Lyrl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 7 hours ago

My commute to work includes a main city road with two lanes each way and a turning lane, and sometimes there is a school bus that stops.

[–] athatet@lemmy.zip 2 points 18 hours ago

It’s not just Texas. It’s a requirement to stop for a school bus with its flashing lights on and stop sign out pretty much everywhere in the US.