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Trump’s ‘Bah! Humbug!’ address suggests he is feeling the chill of opinion polls
(www.theguardian.com)
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MTG is smarter than we've given her credit for.
She was the first rat off the ship, and she'll be playing off her 'independent' stance up until 2028.
"MAGA listened to Trump, and we paid the price for supporting the wrong man! He wasn't true to the cause but I am!"
Still stupid enough to have gotten on to the ship in the first place
Pretty sure she perspnally benefitted from being on the ship and hasn't had any negative repercussions.
She's made a little money but not enough to live the kind of lifestyle she wants if she ever really pisses off her rich friends and gets cut off, anytime she goes out in a crowd she has to deal with the fact that probably 30-40% of it hates her guts, and in 80-100 years she's going to be dead and everything she's done will have crumbled away to nothing because she's way too stupid to build anything that would last.
Oh, and while she was making an ass of herself in public her husband dumped her. Don't care how much money you have and how many sex workers you hire after that, that's gonna sting.
Is it stupid? Jumping on board got her a political career, she made some serious cash, she jumped off at the earliest opportunity to still come out smelling of roses for certain people and won herself some points from her more credulous detractors. She's many things, few if any of them good, but one thing she isn't is stupid
She's done very well for herself. National name, life time pension, and plenty of other benefits we can only guess at.
Don't mistake morality for intelligence.
I found out that her pension is only $8k a year and she can't start collecting it for another decade. When she resigned, everyone was talking about how it was planned since she'd now receive a pension, but the payment amount is peanuts.
On the QAA podcast, they outlined that they think she quit because Trump was going to fund her primary challenger in 2026, Republicans are going to lose big in 2026, and if she won her seat, that'd put her in a position where she has to defend Trump as the minority party just after he paid millions of dollars trying to have her defeated.
Don't give her that credit. She stopped getting what she wanted so she bailed. She was not the first rat off the ship either. She didn't come to her senses or anything.
That said, I support her efforts to splinter the party. Not because I agree with her but because it benefits me
It's hard to give people you hate credit for good ideas, but learning from everyone is part of politics.
George Patton was the general the Germans feared the most; he was also the one who studied their tactics the most.
I give her credit for sticking to the Epstein files and I give her credit for being vocally angry about the delays. I will not give her credit for being "smart"
And again, not at all the first rat off the ship. She bailed when Trump snubbed her.
Bullshit, Patton respect the Nazis because he hated Jews
Nothing you cited disproves my point.
In fact, you getting upset proves my point.
You'd rather get angry about a man who has been dead for almost a century than consider the idea of learning from the enemy.
America was a pretty racist country in 1945.
Patton was no exception.
Yeah yeah, I'm sure all those super smart fascists have all sorts of great things to teach us (/s), but as long as you're so hopped up on learning shit how about you read something for once in this misbegotten thread and recognize the fact that Patton got removed from his post for being so antisemitic, so, no, he wasn't just a man of his times or whatever the excuse is
Fascists are not smart, period. If they were smart they wouldn't be fascists. If they occasionally luck into effective behaviors and strategies, fine learn from those, but calling fascists themselves smart or strong or good or any crap like that is a harmful and misinformed thing to do because it builds their bullshit mystique and makes them more influential, and it is just not true under any circumstances. Their regimes always implode eventually and leave whatever society that was unlucky enough to have them in a worse place than before fascists came on the scene.
I am probably more pissed off by this exchange than you deserve, but like, damn, there's a dril tweet for this
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. If they occasionally luck into effective behaviors and strategies, fine learn from those,
Which is literally my point.
And watching you get all upset and then agreeing with me is some of the funniest stuff I've seen all day.
MTG got approached by a group of consultants promising her the presidency
Have you listened to her lately? She sounds like Kamala during the second half of her mini-campaign
I hope she runs for president, the only thing this country hates more than people of color is women, insta win for the Dems, or hopefully a different party altogether
Before you get too excited, there's a non-zero chance its her vs Kamala...
So MTG is saying the president did a great job and that she wouldn't change any of his policies if she was elected president?
Yep. Well, adjusted for inflation. She suddenly has not a single negative thing to say about Trump. She does her damnedest to not talk about him at all
It's all we have to focus on "the issues" and "the things people really want"
No policy, obviously
Huh, fair enough I guess, I thought she was still going after Trump and just trying to take his place as the QAnon set's champion, but I guess that what I get for assuming a known liar would be consistent in her positions for more than a couple of weeks
Yeah, she's totally sane washing herself, she even explicitly said she no longer believes in q anon
It's really uncanny. She doesn't even have the manic energy anymore, she sits there calm and proper at an angle with her hands still... You know what I'm talking about, the consultant pilled body language
I'd recommend looking up a clip, it's an incredible case study of what consultants do to the human body