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Tesla Robotaxis Are Crashing More Than 12 Times as Frequently as Human Drivers
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this post was submitted on 17 Dec 2025
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I'd rather know how it compares to waymo
Waymo is way ahead, years ahead.
https://waymo.com/safety/impact/
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It wasn't as dramatic, but still more. But it's not really apples to apples since the monitor in the passenger seat has a stop button.
So it's more than waymo, while the person is also stopping it on occasion.
But that's still hard to compare because waymos still do really stupid shit like turn in oncoming lanes, run red lights, or drive into flooded parking lots (all past week or two) where that saftey monitor would stop it.
But it's more than waymo, with the saftey monitor.
You know what would actually be interesting...
If the passengers in these vehicles could flag an unsafe moment and that went directly to the NHSTA including videos and sensor data.
That would better flag things like running red lights or driving into flooded parking lots I mentioned above that might go unreported otherwise other than social media where it's not tracked.
Why would that be a relevant comparison? Why do you care about Waymo?
If it's safer than a human, release them to the public. If it's more dangerous than a human ban them from public roads until they have improved.
Goes for all autonomous car providers.
Well if I am going to ride in one of these ever I want to try and choose the safer of the two. I already assume the Tesla one suck. The waymo one I have no reference for.
Also one uses just cameras and the other uses lidar so I'd like to see the difference in those.
I think I'll always feel safer with a human driver. They are already on the streets where I live for over a year so they must be safe enough for that at least.
none of this bullshit is safer than public transit.
Why do you hate billionaires?