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[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 5 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (2 children)

Judging someone's personality or their likes/dislikes by their ethnicity is definitely racist, I don't see how you could possibly argue it isn't?

Of course it's a bit racist, but not offensive. Nobody's going to be losing sleep over someone assuming they can't handle spice based on their skin colour.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network -2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

If you define racism as prejudice based on perceived race, then sure. If you take a more academic definition, such as this one from Wikipedia

Racism can also be said to describe a condition in society in which a dominant racial group benefits from the oppression of others, whether that group wants such benefits or not.

Then this scenario not so much.

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 9 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

Do you not notice the "can" in your excerpt?

And no, no, no. Don't try to play off your chosen definition of racism as the 'academic' one, and imply any other definitions are wrong. That's not how this works.

Literally the first line on Wikipedia, your chosen source:

Racism is the belief that groups of humans possess different behavioral traits corresponding to inherited attributes and can be divided based on the superiority of one race or ethnicity over another.

But here's some other sources:

The belief that there are different races of people with different characteristics and abilities, and that some races are better than others; a general belief about a whole group of people based only on their race

Oxford dictionary

Harmful or unfair things that people say, do, or think based on the belief that their own race makes them more intelligent, good, moral, etc. than people of other races.

Cambridge dictionary

The belief that each race has distinct and intrinsic attributes.

American Heritage dictionary

All of these describe this scenario perfectly. I'm not really sure why you're so ready to defend such a mildly racist situation.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network -1 points 18 hours ago

Uh... Okay. You asked how someone could possibly argue that it isn't racist, and I provided a path for that.

I didn't say nor mean to imply that the more colloquial definitions are wrong. I was saying that if you are considering racism to be about oppression along racial lines, then a white guy being given mold sauce isn't it. The "if" there is doing a lot of work.

The more commonly used sense of the word "racism" checks out here.

[–] mriormro@lemmy.zip -5 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

'White' isn't an ethnicity.

Making a small assumption about someone's hot sauce preferences isn't racist nor prejudiced; that's just making a generalization.

There is no hostility in that generalization; no injustice is befalling the white man.

Clutch your pearls and continue to desperately vie for offense. You are parody, not polemic.

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

'White' isn't an ethnicity.

"Black" isn't a single ethnicity either, so by your logic it's impossible to be racist to them?

Making a small assumption about someone's hot sauce preferences isn't racist nor prejudiced; that's just making a generalization.

Generalising based on someone's race is racism, surely you know that?

If an Asian walked into my restaurant and I looked him up and down and said "you should probably have the fried rice", that would be racist.

It doesn't matter whether there's "injustice" to the statement, or whether he took offence. It'd still be a racist statement.

Clutch your pearls and continue to desperately vie for offense

The only one doing that here is you. As I've already stated, it's so mild a form of racism that I doubt anybody cares. But it's still racism. Racism that you feel very passionately should be protected or encouraged.