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Anyone who keeps outdoor cats in coyote territory is just an asshole. Can confirm. Do live in coyote territory.
People who have outdoor cats are facilitating the extinction of birds. I'm completely serious. Domestic cats kill billions of birds annually.
Yeah. The coyotes are just doing course correction for nature.
It's not possible to measure how much wildlife specifically domestic cats kill so that statistic is actually from all cats, which include strays. I'm not saying you're wrong, or that this means you should leave your cat out but it's important to be accurate.
"Domestic cat" is referring to the species Felis catus. Strays and ferals are still the same species, just at different levels of human habituation.
Ah, shit. You're right.
We had farm cats in coyote territory without issue. We never lost one to coyotes to my knowledge. You just need to ensure that you also have coyote deterants like an assault donkey or a llama. Having a big guard dog also helps. Basically, anything that would protect your livestock will also protect the cats. If there are enough threats to coyotes in the area then the coyotes will steer clear.
In our case it probably also helped that mama farm cat was a monsterous maine coon who I once saw literally beat the shit out of a full grown rotweiler that got too close to her kittens. It wouldn't surprise me if she had been hunting coyotes for sport.
FTFY
You can't "can confirm" yourself! What is this lawlessness??
evidently not, over there.
I live in Western NY state, and even we have coyotes now. Not numerous but noticeable. They've extended their range beyond what you might think from the Roadrunner cartoons.
You likely don't have any coyotes over there anymore. You have coywolves.
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/coywolves-are-taking-over-eastern-north-america-180957141/
This is a larger species that has the body size closer to a wolf. They hunt in urban and forested areas and are really good at taking out cats. They are also large enough to get deer.
Could be. I was on my bike, and they ran as soon as they saw me. Slightly larger than a German Shepherd but with a different body shape and longer legs. There's plenty of wild and domestic prey for them along the trail I ride, so not surprising they'd be hunting there. I'm usually out before sunrise and see a lot of wildlife that most people don't get to see.
Another part of their success is how totally and completely they avoid human notice in most cases.
We've got outdoor cats in coyote country. Haven't had a problem, honestly I'm more afraid of a great horned owl moving in. We've got a dog that barks a lot. Also sometimes our neighbor will shoot a coyote and leave it out there to scare the others off. But the yipping and howling is why I wear earplugs when I go camping, or put a fan of during summer months.
Fuck that guy... in particular