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A national security official under Joe Biden who reviewed the document is said to have turned pale on realising Beijing had “redundancy after redundancy” for “every trick we had up our sleeve”, The New York Times reported.

Last year, Pete Hegseth, the defence secretary, said that “we lose every time” in the Pentagon’s war games against China, and predicted the Asian country’s hypersonic missiles could destroy aircraft carriers within minutes.

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[–] ramble81@lemmy.zip 27 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Don’t suppose there was a similar report about the strength of Russia’s army before we found out the reality of it in Ukraine?

[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 21 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I think that underestimating China in current year is one of the most disatrous things you could possibly do.

[–] andallthat@lemmy.world 15 points 19 hours ago

Underestimating China isn't wise, but always using China as the new Boogeyman to get even more trillions invested in "national security" is getting old fast. "Secret reports" my ass. If you're reading it on the internet it's most likely plain old FUD.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 7 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, but we all know that Russia is a country run by slovenly drunken morons with institutional ignorance, while China is country who has its shit totally together. I'm not that afraid of Russia, but China is terrifying.

After MAGA, China will be the dominant world power, and we will find out what it feels like to be a country who has to sit back and hope the machinations of other governments are good for us, and accept whatever we get.

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 5 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

China has huge problems domestically. They still haven't climbed out of the hole they dug with their real estate scams.

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

they also have massive corruption, which is the biggest problem the russians have.

the russian military was massively undertrained, underequipped, and underexperienced. all of their 'stats' were massively inflated due to the instiutional corruoption rampant form bottom to top that inflated everything.

[–] mctoasterson@reddthat.com 1 points 14 hours ago

Their demographic problem is even worse thanks to years of the one child policy.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today -1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Whatever problems they've got, they can't come close to ours. Our society is literally on the verge of collapse, and the entire world sees it. China is totally ready to take over the global hegemony.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Russia had prepared itself for the usual American strategy of a Carrier Group sitting out far way from the coast and throwing long range cruise missiles and fighter jets at it whilst too far away to be hit by return fire - as used for decades now, for example in the Gulf War - by developing hypersonic missiles and advanced AA capable of shooting down those fighter jets and cruise missiles.

Then they went and started a land war with their next door neighbor - which is almost the opposite military scenario of that which they prepare themselves for - plus on top of it it turned out EVERYBODY was on the take in their Military so it was a hollowed out shell far lesser than it seemed on paper and finally, to add insult to injury, the era of the drone was upon us changing the nature of land warfare as well as on the long range side making mass attacks with cheap quasi-cruise missiles possible.

Given the geography of it if they attack Taiwan, China is - unlike Russia - almost certainly going to be facing the decades old way of American sea-based force projection in the form of the Carrier Group, which is the one they've prepared themselves to counter.