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It must be frustrating to be caught between two parties, of which one is straight up evil, and the other is just spineless and craven, while both are corrupt. Honestly, y'all should just break it all down and start all over again. Your democracy is broken.
Got any oil?
Personally, I am so thankful that we are on the cusp of the extinction of the oil and gas industry.
The world deserves better than us.
BoTh SidEs
One has a felon pedophile as president, they must be the same.
You're right. LOSING to a known rapist is even worse.
I swear they play a game of chicken with the voters every fucking election. How shitty can they get away with being and still win the election. Well they openly snubbed their base and lost.
The establishment Democrats really are just controlled opposition. They'd rather throw an election than move to the left.
Go ahead explain how "shitty" Harris was, essentially a younger Biden, someone you had no problem voting for just 4 years prior.
Let's hear it. Let's hear, specifically, why you think she would be worse than Trump. I'm so sick of people acting like Harris was the only one in the election. Voting or refusing to vote to "punish" a party is childish and obviously counterproductive. It makes it clear that your so dearly held beliefs are nothing more than props.
Biden is a pile of shit and I hated voting for him.
Yeah, not sure why they assume I had "no problem" voting for Biden. I did so rather begrudgingly.
They are making rather ridiculous assumptions in their comment. No one is talking specifically about Harris other than them.
Yeah, what's it like making that happen? Are you proud of yourself?
How about the other party was so damn foolishly incompetent they couldn't win against a well-known racist, misogynistic, fraud, felon, and also a pedophile. See I can change the narrative too.
You love to turn it as "BoTh SidEs" when the parent comment doesn't even equate them, shows how cultist you can be.
If you can't go beyond taking every little criticism as an attack on your identity, equating both sides and calling them Russian bots, you kinda get what you deserve.
How about the fucking dumbasses that refused to vote for Harris and let Trump win? What's their justification? Did they forget who Trump is? Did they forget he had more criminal trials coming?
Are they not responsible for their choice? The Democratic party MADE THEM DO THAT? What a load of fucking bullshit.
Harris beat Trump so badly in their one debate that Trump was afraid to debate again. She campaigned extensively and did a ton of interviews with friendly and unfriendly organizations.
What did Harris do that was so different from Biden, aside from her not being a white man?
I'm tired of these pathetic fucking excuses while I see the country torn apart by this fucking maniac. It's not the party's fault. It's not the DNC's fault. This time, it's the voters fault.
Why don't you explain to me what exactly was so horrible that it justifies 10 million less people voting for her than did for Biden just four years prior?
Because that's something you tend to leave out when you engage in your good times diatribe circle jerks.
She was worse option than the rapist bro. That's what the polls showed. Just get over it and face reality. Your lords don't care about you.
Pedo-nald being the head of the republican party is a gift to the democrats, who can't run a fucking campaign for shit. I really wanted Kamala to win, but goddamn if she didn't absolutely fuck it up. Between not being able to be the nominee from the start (Thanks ~~Obama~~ Biden!) and campaigning along side republicans while being rather tone deaf in her messaging did not help her cause in the slightest.
Ignoring the more reasonable side's fuckups because the other side is an active garbage dump fire is only going to push us farther along the same path. Maybe democrats will finally learn their lesson and actually campaign for the people instead of their donors. Actually run on a platform to help people, and maybe people will actually vote for them. Worked in '08, and while I'm not naive enough to fall for 'hope and change' again, it would be nice to feel like the person I'm voting for actually gave a fuck.
Explain exactly what you mean that. I'm tired of generalities. What specifically makes you say that?
Because I thought she ran a good campaign. She was aggressive, she whipped his ass in the debate, she was willing to do interviews with friendly and hostile media organizations. She wasn't just "not Trump", she had a platform with a bunch of policy ideas that I guarantee a large portion of the people taking part in the discussion here on Lemmy are unaware of.
You didn't give Harris a chance. You wanted to "punish" Democrats. All you did was make everything worse for everybody.
I'm not going to bother engaging with any of your comment other than this bit:
I voted for her and wanted her to win 🤡🤡🤡. Which should have been obvious if you bothered to actually read my comment.
Go back and look through my comment history and show me where any of your lazy and thoughtless accusation came from, other than me not showing unconditional approval for the Dems nominee.
I will not hold the person I vote for above scrutiny, and I only have contempt for the idiots who do.
Edit: and do you really need me to spell out how tone deaf she was supporting Israel and saying the economy was great? Or that she wasn't the nominee for a large chunk of the race?
Like I said, one is straight up evil. Although, don't think for a second there are no pedophiles on the other side. That would just be naive.
They're not the same, silly! One is the good cop and one is the bad cop.
They do have some similarities, though. They are both pro-corporate and anti-union.
Republicans being worse is no excuse for democrats being dog shit. Republicans continue to lower the bar and the democrats follow them while leaving just enough space to be considered different, but what we end up with is a continual decline regardless.
You should be fucking ashamed of yourself for giving Republicans a free pass like this. What a stupid fucking attitude. Way to make it plain that all of the issues you claim to care about don't matter to you at all. Kids are getting ripped out of grade school and sent across the county, put into ICE detention and deported to fuck knows where. You try to take the moral high ground, like you care about the people now suffering? No. Absolutely not. You spit directly in the face of those people just so you could "stick it to the man" like a high school freshman. Pathetic. And you think Harris was that much WORSE than this?
You acted like there was only one person in the race,. The choice is which side you think better benefits your views. Do you understand? Anything less means you don't care about those views. You DO NOT get to claim you care about those issues when you ACTIVELY make their situations significantly worse. It is just fucking beyond stupid and irresponsible to equate a serious and capable politician with a con man, carnival barker, convicted felon pedophile. THAT is what you helped bring to power. You're a Trump supporter. You don't get to pretend that reality isn't the way it is.
Did you defeat the two party system, champ? No, you didn't. Good job.
There is no logical way to argue that Trump and his psychotic policies and sheer incompetence is in any way comparable, let alone BETTER THAN Harris. It's non-sensical bullshit. You fucking selfish assholes spend all your time in echo chambers doing things like bemoaning "Biden's crime bill" while being sure to NEVER mention that Sanders voted for that same bill. That doesn't jive with your propaganda though, does it? I believe I also heard Sanders make positive comments about Trump's immigration policy, isn't it funny how that never comes up in your echo chambers? You're not interested in truth, you don't care about Bernie Sanders. You don't care about what Bernie Sanders stands for.
Guess who Sanders told you vote for? Guess who has never claimed he was "cheated"? Bernie Sanders has integrity and understands that some progress is ALWAYS better than drastic regression. You do not have integrity, you have no real beliefs, you're in the liberal personality cult and you morons will be a stain on Bernie's legacy. History will remember your dedication to him when you outright refused his voting suggestion. When you told him you'd rather have Trump because, somehow in your convoluted fucked-up mind, that signals loyalty to Bernie. It doesn't. You stabbed Bernie in the back and set back progress on issues he cares about for decades if not worse. Amazing you agree with everything he says, EXCEPT THAT.
Not even a fucking SINGLE year in to Trump's term and it is already an unmitigated disaster. You own a small amount of responsibility. I don't. It's not my fault for voting for the Democratic candidate. I didn't make you sit out. YOU are the only one responsible for your decision. Now you want sit here and act like the Democrats "made you do it"? No, you made an incredibly stupid decision that you can't even remotely justify. You threw a hissy fit because you didn't get exactly what you wanted.
I don't know how you can think I'm giving a free pass to republicans when right in the part you quoted I'm saying they're worse than democrats. I skimmed the rest of your moralizing lecture and you've made a hilarious strawman that doesn't represent me at all, but I hope you enjoyed your masturbation session, "champ".