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I'd argue they are still rights whether the law is behind it or not. These things are always a moral entitlement; not always a lawful one.
But like... Morals are relative. They're frameworks built around core values, they're not a property of the universe. They're not self evident, they're axioms we choose to value collectively
Rights are things that must always be fought for, and they can be both established and worn away. They're a social construct
Rights are things that come before the law, they're the boundaries of the law. But like the rule of law itself, they only exist through collective belief and action, otherwise they're just words
I don't think it needs to be dressed up more than that. Good things are good and bad things are bad, rights protect people from bad things from the state
You'll never convince people who think good things are bad, because they don't have good values. You shouldn't engage with them on an equal level, because their values are inferior... At this point we just need to make it socially unacceptable to share their fucked up opinions