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The HDMI Forum, responsible for the HDMI specification, continues to stonewall open source. Valve's Steam Machine theoretically supports HDMI 2.1, but the mini-PC is software-limited to HDMI 2.0. As a result, more than 60 frames per second at 4K resolution are only possible with limitations.

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[–] Routhinator@startrek.website 22 points 1 day ago (2 children)

They are called monitors, and yeah expensive but then you don't get a "Smart TV" with tracking and bullshit.

[–] sunbeam60@feddit.uk 6 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Nor do you get TV tuners. While most geeks probably couldn’t care less, any associated family do prefer to watch Great British Bake-off as it airs.

[–] Cybersteel@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

You could get an external digital tuners and a hdmi switch to switch between pc and the TV.

[–] PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 2 points 21 hours ago

My grandmother still has an ancient tv with one of those tuner boxes she bought for her tv when analog went off the air.

[–] madjo@feddit.nl 2 points 21 hours ago

I would use an Apple TV or a Chromecast in that case. Most TV providers that I know offer their own mediabox anyway, so no need for TV Tuners anymore.

[–] Petter1@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 58 minutes ago

My country just disabled radio and tv over coax wire and provider send ip-TV boxes.
This allows to have now faster internet, which I like.

[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 2 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Just told my elderly aunt to not buy a smart tv today!

But do they make 40ish+ monitors?

[–] Routhinator@startrek.website 4 points 1 day ago

They do, but they much more expensive than a smart TV, even though they have less components.. Because a Smart TV is sold for less because its providing the vendor access to you as a product to all of their 3rd party partners.

[–] Routhinator@startrek.website 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I will add that you can also still get Westinghouse dumb TVs with included DVD player and USB video player, 3x HDMI and a tuner, but 1080p and Max 36"

[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is big! Where can I buy one for my aunt‽ She needs a dumb TV that integrates with the Westinghouse infrastructure.

[–] Routhinator@startrek.website 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

This is the one I've gotten two of for kids playroom and bedroom.. They work great, old school simple tech.

https://www.amazon.ca/Westinghouse-Parental-Controls-Non-Smart-Monitor/dp/B09QXYZB3Y

[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Routhinator@startrek.website 1 points 20 hours ago

No, my name is Chris.

[–] FG_3479@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

It doesn't matter if you get one. They are the cheapest and best image quality TVs available, and many like Samsung's let you set them up without connecting to Wi-Fi.

[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, is a fucking sad state of affairs. I actually paid extra for my dumb TV, but then hooked up a jailbroken firestick so I guess I'm a hypocrite.

[–] FG_3479@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago

I understand why, but you didn't have to. Many smart TVs let you set them up without Wi-Fi and just use the HDMI ports.

Samsung, LG, and Google TV models do, but Roku and Fire TV do not.