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The HDMI Forum, responsible for the HDMI specification, continues to stonewall open source. Valve's Steam Machine theoretically supports HDMI 2.1, but the mini-PC is software-limited to HDMI 2.0. As a result, more than 60 frames per second at 4K resolution are only possible with limitations.

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[–] bystander@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 days ago (5 children)

I don't know this area well. But I have a strong preference for all port shapes to be the same where possible. Can USB-C shaped heads do the same thing as DisplayPort? If not now, is it possible to make it in the future.

[–] gustofwind@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Unfortunately this has an even more serious problem:

How do you know which cable supports which modes of delivery?

Turns out you have a usb c cable that doesn’t actually support power delivery or anything

Now what do you do?

[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This is why many of the expensive Dock options from HP / Dell / Lenovo, etc come with a non-detachable USB-C cable. You can't have the "wrong" cable because the one you need isn't removable.

[–] raldone01@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

I really dislike that. But I understand the reaction to the failure of the usb org. Usb C cables must be labelled on the cable (repeating) with exactly what they support in standard terms.

Maybe another job for the EU.

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Why though? It’s immediately clear where a VGA or hdmi cable works, but a USB-C could support or not support anything.

[–] fonix232@fedia.io 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That is where port markings come into play...

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 days ago

You also need cable markings, as both the cable and the port decide what specs to implement, and if they’re standard compliant or not.

Plus there are active/inactive cables for thunderbolt (and I think usb4) which massively affect performance.

USB c is better than the shitty port designs of USB before it, but it’s a huge mess.

[–] galaxy_nova@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago

So could an hdmi cable, there a lots of different hdmi specs as there are usb c specs. The problem is the lack of standardized labeling not the cables shapes. USB-C for everything would personally be my preference

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 6 points 3 days ago

Display Port over USB C is a thing now. It's how laptop docks work these days. In one cable you have power, video, and USB.

USB-C alt mode is DisplayPort with a USB-C connector.

[–] OnfireNFS@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Thunderbolt is exactly that.

Thunderbolt 2 and Mini Displayport used to have the same connector. Since Thunderbolt 3, it now uses the USB C connector.

Thunderbolt 5 supports Displayport 2.1. I wish more devices used Thunderbolt compatible USB C ports. Or GPUs came with a Thunderbolt port on them. They're pretty awesome, it's like better USB C.

It seems like only laptops really use them to allow docking through a single cable

[–] Anafabula@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 3 days ago

You don't need Thunderbolt for Displayport alt mode. It's a separate spec that can also be implemented independently. I have a dock that's not Thunderbolt but supports DP alt mode.

But Thunderbolt has some additional stuff too