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[–] daannii@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Well. It's tricky. They sure do like the benefits of feminism. But they deny it.

[–] ianhclark510@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Everyone benefits from feminism ✊

[–] RickyRigatoni@retrolemmy.com 2 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Even the humble rock warbler?

[–] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 2 points 14 hours ago

Especially the humble rock warbler!

[–] ianhclark510@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 10 hours ago

I can’t tell if this a reference, and Google AI can’t either, so either it’s an original thought (gasp) or it’s so obscure it slipped under the radar

I wonder if there’s going to be a black market of unexploited deep memes not yet ingested

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Conservatives only believe what they experience personally so they don't know what feminism has provided for them. They need the privilege taken away to appreciate what feminism does for them.

[–] AquaTofana@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

I would agree with you, except I lived in Texas for a decade, and I saw women vote against themselves multiple times.

I saw Greg Abbott put forward one of the legislative pieces that was the basis for RvW being repealed (the 6 week "heartbeat" bill).

Then I saw the 5th circuit support it.

Then I saw Greg Abbott/Dan Patrick/Ken Paxton/John Cornyn/Ted Cruz get voted in again afterwards. And none of those elections can be blamed on gerrymandering, because they were all popular vote elections.

So yeah, I just think conservative women are true believers who are willing to show up to the polls. Even if it means giving up their own rights.

Because I do not believe that all of those conservative women are rich. They're fucking brainwashed. And they'll continue to be brainwashed because they're too proud to admiy anything else. Even if they're poor af.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 4 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

Anti-feminist propaganda is a real thing. As a guy I like to think I’m fairly progressive but believed a lot of the hate against feminism even as an adult. The women I knew were “the good ones”.

The thing is it was based on caricatures of feminism, outliers and extremists, and the claim that feminism is no longer necessary. I’m sure those extremists exists and we are closer to gender equality than historically but feminism has helped us all and we do need more of it.

We had children before there was any paternity leave in the US. I must have been complaining that I wished I could spend more time with my newborn, but it was the feminist group at work who went to demand there be paternity leave, because equal is equal and paternity leave helps everyone

[–] daannii@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

The word has been branded "dirty". I met a guy who said he supported equality between genders but wasn't a feminist. I'm like, my dude, that's literally the definition of feminism. It's just wanting equality.

He argued and argued that he wasn't a "feminist".
While still claiming he supported every ideal of feminism.

He insisted feminist were "blue hair girls with nose rings who told everyone they were bigoted and ruined video games".

I blame the bro culture. And specifically Asmongld. That tool.

Invents imaginary women stereotype, and then blames the imaginary women for all his problems and why he has to be misogynist. They drove him to it. These imaginary women are the cause.

It all just gets old real fast.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

The problem is they were too successful at it and all too many have that as their definition of feminism. That’s all they know.

I do think a different term might be called for, because that one is lost to many

[–] daannii@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

Someone else will just tarnish any new term. Our best bet is to just educate people what it actually means.

Like how "communist" and "socialism" has been made into a dirty word. And let's not forget the most recent one, "Antifa".

We just have to fight against it. And do our best to correct the misperceptions when we can.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 5 points 20 hours ago

I think it’s because they’re stupid like the “conservative” men they worship

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago

Nothing like a women leader who denounces feminism when they would not be a leader without it.