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MAGA propagandist Will Chamberlain "It should be American policy to force the dissolution of the European Union. Punish countries that stay in, reward those that leave" (lemmy.world)
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[โ€“] RunawayFixer@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I see 3 possible reasons:
The continued existence of a free and democratic Europe could remind US citizens of what they once had and how much better they could be living, which makes the continued existence and success (fingers crossed) of the EU an existential threat to US conservatives.

Or maybe Putin + Xi consider the battle for the spite and minds of US Americans won and so they're now moving the focus of their troll armies + proxies to the EU. If all trolls suddenly get the same new talking points, that's not organic, that's a strategic shift mandated from the top.

And the 3rd reason I can think of is the combination of the above, which I think is most likely. And if the authoritarians fail at making the eu fail, they'll double down on displaying the eu countries as dystopian hellholes to convince their own population that they have it so much better.

[โ€“] Tuuktuuk@piefed.ee 5 points 2 days ago

The continued existence of a free and democratic Europe could remind US citizens of what they once had and how much better they could be living, which makes the continued existence and success (fingers crossed) of the EU an existential threat to US conservatives.

This is the main way how Ukraine has been a threat for the Russia at least since 2008. Back then, about 40 % of Ukrainins spoke Russian as their mother tongue, and they were suddenly living a comfortable life in a democracy. Putin lives off the Russian assumption that Russians cannot live in a democracy โ€“ that the "Russian soul" wants a strong leader so strongly that any attempt at democracy would be futile. And at the same time, he's saying that all people whose mother tongue is Russian "are Russians". So, when people who โ€“ according to his propaganda โ€“ are Russians, are able to lead a sensible and civilized life in a democratic country, it makes a lot of people who are actually Russians think that their country could maybe achieve the same as well.

And yeah, the above is the most important reason why the Russia betrayed the nation that had come as close to considering the Russia a friend as is in any manner possible. It paints a grim future for the USA-EU relationship.