It should be EU policy to force dissolution of the United States.
Equally insane statement.
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However, it should be EU policy to force the dissolution of US monopolies on the European market - if only to reduce the risk of blackmail.
Well that would be just sensible. Being dependent on a friend this unreliable is scary.
Downright dangerous it is
"friend"
That should have always been a thing. Being so reliant on a foreign country is stupid. Imagine America become more unfriendly then it already is. What would they do.
No no no⦠you have a point.
Yes, I'm getting into this idea the more I hear
krasnov is doing a pretty good job so far.
Imagine any European suggesting that states seceding from the union be rewarded and the rest punished. It would be so bizarre.
It's not such a bad idea for us to consider honestly. What army can be maintained without taxes from CA, NY, IL?
As someone from an historically ridiculously stable country, seeing the brakeup of the U.S, Russia and even China into many warring states would be peak morbid entertainment. More likely to happen in Russia and China though as they're more culturally, ethnically and linguistically diverse (despite their insane attempts to project the opposite).
If you think that's going to happen far away from you and leave you unimpacted then you're not going to like what that would actually look like
The south will burn again! Let's ride boys. Note-Meaning let's drive and begin, don't wanna get any maga pedos confused and excited.
May I recommend the humble comma? Letβs ride, boys!
Let's ride men!
I also like the sentiment of merrily moving goalposts here!
First you are about to get a reward for leaving. After you have left, you are told you will get your reward if you choose a specific PM.
Once the specified PM has been sworn in, they will then tell the next condition. And so on and so on.
What an attractive offer!
After Farage it would be "Sell your NHS to us and give us access to sell our shitty food into your markets"
Apparently the EU scares MAGA. Great!
Lets scare them more by more power to the EU parliament and start federalising
Please ask the UK how their brexit went before making any decisions.
And think long and hard if you have an economy on a similar scale as the UK
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Wait, I'm confused. So the guy that played a big part in dragging us into Brexit is also the guy that can save us from it? Or did I just get Poe's lawed?
I am as puzzled as you but whatever the case itβs fantastic comedy. I laughed at that punch line in the end.
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Just parroting kremlin talking points.
If California doesn't secede I'll stop buying almonds.
I encourage you to stop buying almonds anyway lol
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When is Europe along with the rest of the world going to grow some fucking balls and start isolating the US economically & diplomatically like North Korea? A majority of their population voted yes to an openly fascist pedophile, who is openly hostile to democratic ideals and wants to subjugate the free world under his rule. Sure, there would be some economic pain when orange fuckwit throws a tantrum, but if we all keep enabling it we will only be making things worse for ourselves when we inevitably have to fight them militarily.
Not just that, we also need to aggressively combat our own far right. We need to tackle it in Hungary, we need to tackle it in all of Europe.
That means, improving livehoods for the proletariat that thinks itself "middle class" and "lower class". That means actual proper taxation of large companies. And that means actually combatting corruption!
Eh... you're being even more short sighted than Trump.
EU leaders are not children. They have plans that goes beyond who the current president is.
We've been Allies for a very long time. Exchanging technology, products and services. It's not as easy as just "cut them off". A lot of companies in EU have taken steps to become more independent in case of a major fallout with the US. But it's not exactly the thing you hear about on the news.
I can only speculate from what I know of my workplace. We are taking steps. But it takes time. We can't just stop all services and take a break for 5 years while we spend God knows how much money developing our own software and solutions.
We still need to keep a cash flow while we transition.
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Putin's strategy to weaken the usa via the orange child rapist:
Step 1. Alienate Canada.
Step 2. Alienate Europe.
Step 3. Who gives a fuck? Let them idolise the orange kiddie fiddling fascist and then fuck off for the rest of history.
Step 4. Nope, just fuck off. Come back when you're not interested in protecting and enabling obvious paedos with your protest votes.
Unfortunately, the dreams of the Russian elites for the West are becoming increasingly real since Brexit,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics
And now their vision aligns with that of the American elites in power.
Why are conservatives so suddenly obsessed with the EU?
Because the EU has resisted the ultra-rich and the corporations in many ways recently (imposing rules, fining bad behavior) and the ultra rich just want to bully the world according to their whims which leads directly to the new attitudes in their party? Or could be the fact that russia also desperately wants the EU to be dead.
The republican party only serves the mega-rich and russian interests, so most of their actions can be explained by who gains from them, either mega-rich or russia.
The EU isn't letting them rape and pillage.
The EU hasn't been compromised like the US federal government and at least, to some extent, still looks out for the interests of its citizens.
Conservatives and neoliberals only care about making rich people richer.
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I see 3 possible reasons:
The continued existence of a free and democratic Europe could remind US citizens of what they once had and how much better they could be living, which makes the continued existence and success (fingers crossed) of the EU an existential threat to US conservatives.
Or maybe Putin + Xi consider the battle for the spite and minds of US Americans won and so they're now moving the focus of their troll armies + proxies to the EU. If all trolls suddenly get the same new talking points, that's not organic, that's a strategic shift mandated from the top.
And the 3rd reason I can think of is the combination of the above, which I think is most likely. And if the authoritarians fail at making the eu fail, they'll double down on displaying the eu countries as dystopian hellholes to convince their own population that they have it so much better.
The continued existence of a free and democratic Europe could remind US citizens of what they once had and how much better they could be living, which makes the continued existence and success (fingers crossed) of the EU an existential threat to US conservatives.
This is the main way how Ukraine has been a threat for the Russia at least since 2008. Back then, about 40 % of Ukrainins spoke Russian as their mother tongue, and they were suddenly living a comfortable life in a democracy. Putin lives off the Russian assumption that Russians cannot live in a democracy β that the "Russian soul" wants a strong leader so strongly that any attempt at democracy would be futile. And at the same time, he's saying that all people whose mother tongue is Russian "are Russians". So, when people who β according to his propaganda β are Russians, are able to lead a sensible and civilized life in a democratic country, it makes a lot of people who are actually Russians think that their country could maybe achieve the same as well.
And yeah, the above is the most important reason why the Russia betrayed the nation that had come as close to considering the Russia a friend as is in any manner possible. It paints a grim future for the USA-EU relationship.
It's not conservatives, all actual conservatives understand now more than ever how needed the EU is. This is a coordinated attack on liberal democracy and the rule based world order coming from actors whose n.1 foreign policy objective is destroying them. Russia, China and Trump all have the same goal and that's undoing liberal democracy, or at the least rendering all liberal democracies useless.
Oh hey, The Magats want to control Europe. Qulle suprise.
Who asked him for his opinion?
Please, don't make Hungary leave the European Union!
Moving goalposts. An idiots guide on how to do American diplomacy.
Haha, "skid" Mark asking when they'll get their reward just goes to prove Brexit was utterly fruitless for the dolts that voted for it.
The UK's reward was musky melon stirring up even more shit.
Also, I'm not sure if MrMark shot himself in the foot in that last sentence. He is one of those nationalists, right?
Whoβs Putinβs little mouthpiece? Arenβt you a good boy!
Oh look at the fake conversation going on here. X and Musk should be shut down and stripped of citizenship and deported.
Or just start the trials now. Some are saying the vast majority of Americans want to see these people brought to justice. As harshly as allowed by US law.
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