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[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Those manufacturing jobs for humans are super safe in the coming decade, and selling out future generations' natural legacy surely won't have negative consequences. You're looking at exploitation of the labour class by the ruling class and saying it's prosperity. Well, yes, of a sort.

[–] Socialism_Everyday@reddthat.com 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Those manufacturing jobs for humans are super safe in the coming decade

Not sure what you're on about. AI revolution replacing humans by machines in industry? If China achieves this, it will find employment for its people in other sectors of the economy, as it historically has.

selling out future generations' natural legacy

...by producing 93% of the world's production of solar photovoltaic panels and being the largest investor in wind energy production and nuclear including the most advanced thorium reactor designs?

You're looking at exploitation of the labour class by the ruling class

Go ahead and give us data about the wealth differences between politicians in China vs workers in China and compare that with western countries like USA or Germany. Go ahead, by all means, give us the data, convince us of your point and how much more a "ruling class" exists in China than elsewhere.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 1 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)
  1. That's a revisionist view of China's labour history. There have been many examples where the glorious leadership did NOT find meaningful employment for its workers.
    The Chinese government sees their citizens as a means, not an end. If it works out better to let people starve homeless, people will shiver in the rain. If it's cheaper to use slaves, they will use slaves. If it's cheaper to let people die, people will die. If they don't anticipate the need for human labour in the future and there are a billion extra mouths to feed, a billion people will die.

  2. China has some of the worst domestic environmental damage in the world. To their credit, they also have some of the best environmental remediation, but it's still selling out the future of everyone on the planet.

  3. I'm not the one holding out exploitation as prosperity, so I do not have to defend the actions of other exploitative environments. By your own logic, they should be viewed strictly in terms of their prosperity, so obviously you think things in Germany and the USA are just peachy.
    But I would note that in Germany and the USA, corporations are independent of the state and the state is not directly benefiting from that exploitation to the same degree -- merely enabling it through legislative capture. But that is not a thing in China because the Chinese government is effectively entirely captured, being effectively the same entity as all the major Chinese corporations.

[–] Socialism_Everyday@reddthat.com 1 points 14 hours ago

The Chinese government sees their citizens as a means, not an end. If it works out better to let people starve homeless, people will shiver in the rain

You're not talking from factual evidence, but from western exceptionalism. I'll proceed to disregard everything else you've written. Have a good day malding at the rise of China and your western empire crumbling