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IBM CEO says there is 'no way' spending trillions on AI data centers will pay off at today's infrastructure costs
(www.businessinsider.com)
this post was submitted on 03 Dec 2025
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if someone comes up with an alternative way to use a bunch of that infrastructure to make money, I bet they could get a lot of business when the AI bubble pops and suddenly these datacenters are desperate to find a use for themselves
I believe that's pretty much what happened after the dot-com crash. A lot of fiber was laid during the bubble, it went dormant after the crash, but it was useful afterward as the internet continued growing.
In a small, anecdotal way, I can say with confidence that the level of fiber trenching that happened (in a major metro area) from late 1999 through 2002 was on a whole other level.
You mean like a crazy ai surveillance program? I take it with a grain of salt but I heard ppl say that's how they caught Luigi. They have some super secret prototype program "eye in the sky" thing and they just said it was a mc d's worker as cover.
Even if that doesn't exist yet in the USA, it's definitely in the UK with all their CCTV stuff.
And we know US law enforcement can use things like Ring doorbells.
That's just a conspiracy theory. Luigi is clearly a different person from the images of the shooter.
I know it's just a conspiracy, that's why I take it with a grain of salt. But I could totally see SOMETHING like that existing. But there's too much data to sort through and that's why they need AI
After .com popped, all the money ran to install fiber data infrastructure - a lot of installs put in more capacity than they projected using for 100 years (glass fibers are cheap, digging trenches for them is expensive). The promise of "fiber to the home" is still mostly unrealized, but those trunk lines are out there with oodles of "dark fiber" ready to carry data... someday.
Counterintuitively, I'm seeing "fiber to the home" deployed more in rural an exurb areas. My guess this is because its lower density meaning installing and maintaining copper repeaters becomes more expensive than laying long distance, low maintenance, fiber. Additionally its easier to obtain permits because there is far less existing infrastructure to interfere with right of way and critical services.
We got fiber to the home in our exurb about 4 years ago here in the USA. Its really cheap too. 500Mb/s is $75, 1Gb/s $100, and 5Gb/s I think is $200 per month.
Trillions of dollars worth of compute mining dogecoin
Meanwhile the planet is dying from all the increased emissions from data center usage.
Datacenters aren't helping, but they're like 3-4% of emissions. It's still manufacturing plastic crap and shipping across the ocean with bunker fuel burn causing 60% of it.
But yeah, increased energy usage isn't helping.
Oh, they totally will. It'll be another website boom. A lot of the big web presences will be damaged by the bust and hosting costs will fall through the floor. Less barrier to entry for making your little website and some portion of those will become problematicly large due to cheap cost driving bad design and we'll go through the third or fourth round of this.
Or, for deepest irony, some of the most optimally located datacenters could be converted into steel mills and industrial bakeries.
I heard ram pricing is high. There’s their use, an economic one.
So you're saying mining crypto is gonna come back into fashion?