I’ve been thinking a lot recently about PeerTube, Loops, Bandwagon, and other platforms in the Fediverse that are geared around artists. I might get flamed for this, and you’re welcome to disagree, but I think the network is in dire need of having support for commerce.

Not “Big Capitalism” commerce, but the ability for people to buy and sell things, support projects, and commission their favorite creators to keep making more stuff.

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[–] EfreetSK@lemmy.world 11 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (3 children)

Maybe it's just nostalgia but in my opinion, with youtube it went all to shit the moment the money started to be involved. Algorithm chasing, advertisement, reactive content, sponsors, quickly generated videos, ... and all the other shit.

So if monetization, then let's try to avoid same mistakes

[–] JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.social 11 points 16 hours ago

One seemingly enormous difference is that YT is a for-profit platform owned by a huge business (Google), not a decentralised network run by many small volunteers. FWIW.

[–] hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 11 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

I'm not sure if this translates to the content creators. There's many of them whom I really like to watch who do (or did) Youtube as a business model. Tom Scott being one example or Derek Muller (Veritasium). I'm subscribed to many more. Simplicissimus and their yet better second channel (in German). We wouldn't have those without monetization. The platform of course went shit over time. Fortunately my Ad blocker still works and thanks to Sponsorblock my experience is fairly alright... But personally - I'm split on this question. We had quite the amount of entertainment before monetization but I think a large amount of quality content also arrived after that, and because of it. Those people would be working some office job today if it wasn't to Youtube. And I (and the world) would miss out.... On the other hand we got MrBeast, a lot of fake cooking videos...

[–] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 6 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I don't think it was money that changed youtube, i think it was the algo, it now promotes viral content that for some reason has a persons face in the thumbnail with an exaggerated face :O

[–] deadsuperhero@lemmy.world 4 points 15 hours ago

Yeah, the YouTube algorithm itself is a huge problem. I think about the fact that there are entire slop studios out there trying to ride algorithm trends, churning out crap to push onto YouTube Kids so that they'll do numbers and make a lot of money from it.

Like, I have nothing against the concept of a recommendation algorithm itself, but the relationship I just described is nightmare fuel.