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[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (7 children)

right, let me sit around on my ass and look inwards, while my costs go up faster than my salary.

surely that will fix things.

the fact you think men need to look inwards tells me you come from a position of massive privledge and wealth. those of us who have had to struggle to pay bills, and feared being homeless don't care about 'looking inward' we care about not being broke.

most young men can't afford their bills dude. no amount of inward emotional work is going to fix that. and they are being told to fuck off for even daring to ask that maybe if they work hard the yshould be able to afford the basics of a life. a home, a family, healthcare, security and community.

and all those things are actively being denied to them by the world. college grad can't even afford to live with roommates anymore because rents are so high and wages are so low. how is a 24 year old guy ilving at home making 35K a year supposed to feel? while the left endlessly shits on him what a loser he is for not makign 250K a year.

[–] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (6 children)

How is any of that exclusive to men?

Though I agree it is somewhat of a privilege to have the time and security it takes to allow for self-actualization, that’s a struggle that a lot of us have to deal with, regardless of sex, gender, or sexual orientation.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 4 points 1 day ago (4 children)

How is any of that exclusive to men?

Not the other person, but my guess is that women have a lot more to immediately fear from the right and/or "gain" from liberals so it makes sense for them to stick with the center. Meanwhile men tend to place more value on their ability to (and be expected to) provide for themselves and their current or future families, so they care more about costs of living. Basically women are too busy running away from the psycho trying to kill them, while men have enough room to stop and say "doesn't my life kinda suck."

[–] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That still doesn’t make sense. Women still have to pay the same costs of living. We’re all in the same boat, trying to survive on the scraps the capitalists offer us.

I don’t have a magic “vagina pass” that makes my wage higher or rent more affordable. If I were running away from a psycho, I’d still have to somehow make ends meet while also dealing with hostile people. That’s where I get confused. Pride is one thing, but when your ability to live in society is hanging from a late-stage capitalist thread, pride is no longer the primary driver - survival itself is. Man, woman, non-binary, we’re all struggling in this same way.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If I were running away from a psycho, I’d still have to somehow make ends meet while also dealing with hostile people.

Yeah, but you'd be a lot less likely to believe the psycho has your best interests in mind. Now to be clear we're dealing with trends here; plenty of women do in fact believe the psycho has their best interests in mind, and plenty of men don't like the psycho even if they're not the primary target, but the threat of being killed or locked up in a basement means you have to be more desperate (or more gullible) to believe the psycho's words if you're a woman. Also, for people who aren't literally in danger of becoming homeless pride would be expected to have more effect, which will disproportionately affect men.

[–] IzzyJ@lemmy.world 0 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

But that ignores the completely other side of how stupid this, in that we know- for a fact- the left is more likely to actually get cost of living down. So why are men believing exactly the opposite?

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 1 points 17 hours ago

No no, the dichotomy is between liberals and conservatives here. The system has done such a good job hiding leftwing politics from people that save for a few aberrations (i.e. Mamdani) they're just not something people think about.

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