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Venezuela has accused Donald Trump of making a "colonialist threat" after he said the airspace around the country should be considered closed.

The country's foreign ministry called Trump's comments "another extravagant, illegal and unjustified aggression against the Venezuelan people".

The US does not legally have the authority to close another country's airspace, but Trump's online post could lead to travel uncertainty and deter airlines from operating there.

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[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 23 points 22 hours ago (6 children)

China closes the airspace over Taiwan

Has a different meaning to everyone when you change the country names

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 28 points 22 hours ago

I don't think it does.

[–] takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (3 children)

To me it doesn't. It is still bad. At least with China and Taiwan we know what they want, with Venezuela it is just speculation. Nobody believes it is drugs.

My speculation is that he isn't planning to invade and this is to push Venezuela and other Latin American countries to develop closer relationship with Russia. He did it with Iran, China, India and others.

[–] CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 11 points 19 hours ago

We know what they want in Venezuela too. It's their oil reserves.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 5 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Speculation? Let me speculate it's the same reason as Iraq 2, Iraq 1, Iran (Shah)...

[–] takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 hours ago

I'm saying that previously at least there was some official reason given. This time they don't even bother with it.

[–] black_flag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (3 children)

Honestly this comment is just so confusing and baffling I'm just dumbfounded. What on earth do you mean? The relationship between China and taiwan is nothing like the relationship between the US and Venezuela

Edit: even if it was...why would it just be presumed to be cool that China close the airspace around Taiwan? Wtf

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 5 points 19 hours ago

That's rather the point? See how ridiculous is sounds in a different context?

[–] Tabula_stercore@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

If the usa invades sovereign and peaceful Venezuela there should be sanctions and retribution, the same way as Russia invading Ukraine. What is missing in the current situation is condemning the usa the same way as when China talks about Taiwan; two standards.

[–] black_flag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I feel like I get it now. Of course it's bad that the us does this. It seemed so obvious I didn't think that would be the point

[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 2 points 50 minutes ago

A lot of people on Lemmy have an issue with holding that two things can be wrong at the same time.

[–] Jarix@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago

Henry Rollins would be shaking his head at your lack of understanding

[–] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Just ml and hexbear on that one

[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Perhaps go with the original.

Russia illegally annexes Crimea.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 hours ago

Israel colonizes Gaza.

[–] flandish@lemmy.world -1 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Why? Venezuela is not a portion of the USA. This is straight US invasion. Like Zionists inventing “Israel” and invading Palestine.

[–] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (2 children)

Taiwan has never been ruled by the PRC though

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 6 hours ago

But was historically part of China prior to the formation of the CCP.

So it's still different than US/Venezuela

[–] flandish@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

and alaska was never part of the 13 colonies. so?

[–] vga@sopuli.xyz -1 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (2 children)

So you mean it's exactly like China and Taiwan?

[–] freeman@sh.itjust.works 3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Taiwan claims sovereignty over mainland China, I doubt Venezuela does the same with the US.

[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 0 points 5 hours ago

I don't think it actually does claim that.

[–] flandish@lemmy.world 0 points 10 hours ago (1 children)
[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 0 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

That is true, Taiwan is the real China. But I don't think we were arguing about names of countries here.

[–] flandish@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

China is the real china, taiwan being an offshoot of an exile. but yeah. no nations should exist to begin with anyway.